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Re: Going to get Roland FP7F, talk me out of it and to a upright
CrashTest #1811752 12/24/11 11:58 AM
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I played Pianoteq briefly from my FP-7F yesterday (I do this once every few months to see if my opinion has changed), and no, the FP-7F is better.


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I wouldn't get a digital piano if I can get an acoustic instead. I am considering moving my acoustic upright from my parent's house to my flat but I know I will have many problems with the neighbors.


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Re: Going to get Roland FP7F, talk me out of it and to a upright
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Crash Test, you're posting in a Digital Forum. What do you expect?

I would always go with an AP first before I worry about getting a digital. I have an FP7F and no way would it be better than a good upright like Kawai or Yamaha.


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Re: Going to get Roland FP7F, talk me out of it and to a upright
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So I went out and got the Roland FP7F, it's fantastic! Sound and touch are really nice.

I just have a little funny issue, on 4-5 notes the right speaker seems to be a little bit noisy/rattling/static, is that normal or fixable? Or is it a bigger problem? The other notes are fine, it's just 4-5 in the mid to upper register.

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Originally Posted by CrashTest
So I went out and got the Roland FP7F, it's fantastic! Sound and touch are really nice.

I just have a little funny issue, on 4-5 notes the right speaker seems to be a little bit noisy/rattling/static, is that normal or fixable? Or is it a bigger problem? The other notes are fine, it's just 4-5 in the mid to upper register.


Well, there you go. Your search for the perfect sound has begun. Good Luck.


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Re: Going to get Roland FP7F, talk me out of it and to a upright
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Originally Posted by CrashTest
I just have a little funny issue, on 4-5 notes the right speaker seems to be a little bit noisy/rattling/static, is that normal or fixable? Or is it a bigger problem? The other notes are fine, it's just 4-5 in the mid to upper register.


Sounds like a problem with your speaker (which may be minor, but why worry about it in a new instrument?). Might go back and try the model in the store. If it's not there, return yours right away while it's still new and you have the box.

Alternately, give it a listen with headphones and tell us whether it's still there.

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Oh sorry, I didn't notice you said it's only in the right speaker. Exchange the piano.

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I turned the master gain down, and it helped a bit, especially on lower volumes. But once in a while in higher volumes I can hear it. Is it a matter of breaking in the speaker, or no? Headphones were fine with no issues.

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Could be a number of mechanical things:

1. Broken or damaged speaker
2. Speaker not screwed down well
3. Some wire or something loose and vibrating around

that kind of thing. None of them real serious most likely and could easily be repaired, but this is a brand new piano, so I think you shouldn't allow anything to be imperfect.

I don't think it's a matter of breaking in the speaker.

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Don correct me if I am wrong but aren't you the Don from synthzone?

If I am right you just got some Podiums from Fran (uncle Dave) that I wanted-

It's fine got em from Don M

Also I have HS 80M's and I am curious how you like the sound either playing your DP directly or playing your Vintage D & other software piano's thru them?

Also how do Headphones sound vs. the HS 80's?

Thanks!!

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Originally Posted by gvfarns
Could be a number of mechanical things:

1. Broken or damaged speaker
2. Speaker not screwed down well
3. Some wire or something loose and vibrating around

that kind of thing. None of them real serious most likely and could easily be repaired, but this is a brand new piano, so I think you shouldn't allow anything to be imperfect.

I don't think it's a matter of breaking in the speaker.


Yeah, it's really odd. It only does it on 4-5 notes, the others are fine, so maybe a sensor for those notes is playing them differently? No point returning it today, I don't even think they have another in stock - so I will wait until next week and get a better feel for what is going on. Worst case if I can't figure it out, I'll get it exchanged.

Regardless, it sounds amazing! The action is very good, reminds me of a bigger grand. It has a nice weight to it too.

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Originally Posted by CrashTest
Originally Posted by gvfarns
Could be a number of mechanical things:

1. Broken or damaged speaker
2. Speaker not screwed down well
3. Some wire or something loose and vibrating around

that kind of thing. None of them real serious most likely and could easily be repaired, but this is a brand new piano, so I think you shouldn't allow anything to be imperfect.

I don't think it's a matter of breaking in the speaker.


Yeah, it's really odd. It only does it on 4-5 notes, the others are fine, so maybe a sensor for those notes is playing them differently? No point returning it today, I don't even think they have another in stock - so I will wait until next week and get a better feel for what is going on. Worst case if I can't figure it out, I'll get it exchanged.

Regardless, it sounds amazing! The action is very good, reminds me of a bigger grand. It has a nice weight to it too.


I believe I remember reading of someone who had a similar problem that turned out to be a resonance ... I think it was in the speaker grill. I believe that person discovered that applying pressure to the grill damped the resonance. I don't remember how they solved the problem, but you might want to try pressing your hand on various parts of the grill while striking the notes that are inducing the problem. If you can significantly reduce the objectionable sound, that would be good evidence of a similar problem. Then, it's just a matter of figuring out how to permanently damp the resonance (or just exchange it).

Good luck.


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Originally Posted by JackieH
Don correct me if I am wrong but aren't you the Don from synthzone?


Nope. I do not even know what synthzone is.


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Also I have HS 80M's and I am curious how you like the sound either playing your DP directly or playing your Vintage D & other software piano's thru them?


Playing my DP through the Monitors: I liked it better than the DP speaker system. I rarely use the natural DP sound anymore now so when I do, I just let it come through the DP speakers.

Playing the piano software: It is pretty good. Not as good as headphones but pretty good.

From what I have been reading on this forum, that pretty much sums up most everyone's experience using external speakers versus headphones. Of course, the main reason for that is that with headphones you control that sound much better than when you let it get out into your room.

But all things considered I am pretty happy with my sound now.

Could it be better ? Of course. That is a never ending issue.


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