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#1574544 - 12/11/10 06:57 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: spanishbuddha]  
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Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
Originally Posted by YukiPianist
Thanks to you spanishbuddha, I've buy the Kawai CN33 now. laugh


Congrats YukiPianist. I hope you enjoy it.

Have you played it in a store? Just curious about the reasons for your (excellent) choice.


Yes, I've played it in a French store, I think it's a very good DP, and I've been seduced by the "Ivory Touch with escapement"! Thank you again for your help smile

I will publish photos of the piano when it will delivered to home laugh

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#1574769 - 12/11/10 02:29 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: jhaible]  
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My white (!) CN-33 has been delivered today, by Musik Klier in Nuernberg.


I like the white one too. I don't think yamaha has many white ones so that makes the kawai white ones more unique. My wife said it looked "elton johnish" and advises the rosewood.



#1579220 - 12/18/10 04:47 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Kawai James]  
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Hello,
I'm coming on a forum for the first time of my life, and it's quite difficult because I don't know how to proceed, and I also have some difficulties with english language ! But, anyway, I'm too motivated to turn back now. Learning to play the piano is my childhood's dream, and I'm about of realize it ! I'd need help to choose between CN-33, CN-42 and CA-18, witch are the most I can afford. I've been prospecting for one month now in many music shops, and on the web too, till I've found this forum...Would you please give me some hints.
Thank you in advance.

#1579225 - 12/18/10 05:05 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: jupiterin]  
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Originally Posted by jupiterin

Hello,
I'm coming on a forum for the first time of my life, and it's quite difficult because I don't know how to proceed, and I also have some difficulties with english language ! But, anyway, I'm too motivated to turn back now. Learning to play the piano is my childhood's dream, and I'm about of realize it ! I'd need help to choose between CN-33, CN-42 and CA-18, witch are the most I can afford. I've been prospecting for one month now in many music shops, and on the web too, till I've found this forum...Would you please give me some hints.
Thank you in advance.

Welcome to the forum juperterin. I take it you are a complete newcomer to piano playing? First of all you have made the right decision to do some research before making any decisions, I wish I'd have done that before I first started. All the digital pianos you have listed above are more than adequate for you to start with, I have the CN-33 and haven't found any digital piano in that price range which betters it. I guess the next steps are, decide which kind of music you want to play, decide whether you are going to teach yourself, select a piano teaching method or, better still, engage a piano teacher, either way ....good luck.
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#1579267 - 12/18/10 06:48 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: jupiterin]  
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Originally Posted by jupiterin

Hello,
I'm coming on a forum for the first time of my life, and it's quite difficult because I don't know how to proceed, and I also have some difficulties with english language ! But, anyway, I'm too motivated to turn back now. Learning to play the piano is my childhood's dream, and I'm about of realize it ! I'd need help to choose between CN-33, CN-42 and CA-18, witch are the most I can afford. I've been prospecting for one month now in many music shops, and on the web too, till I've found this forum...Would you please give me some hints.
Thank you in advance.


Any of these models are suitable for a (serious) beginner.

There's a short discussion around the CN42 and CN23 (or CN33) here and the CA18 or CN42 here

Like bluebilly I have a CN33 and think that it's probably the best in its class and price.

You should get the best keyboard action first and then piano sound(s)that you can afford if you're learning piano, but look to other features and functions if you want to explore further. You can always add or improve the piano sound by hooking up the DP to a PC as long as it has a midi or usb to host port.

This thread is full of CN33 enthusiasts of course so lots of info here. Any questions about the CN33? Do visit a store though and check these models out for yourself, and some other brands.

#1579403 - 12/18/10 12:27 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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I was pleasantly surprised by the CN33, so if you can't afford an upper model, CN33 would be my choice.

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#1579406 - 12/18/10 12:38 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: egallego]  
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Originally Posted by egallego
I was pleasantly surprised by the CN33, so if you can't afford an upper model, CN33 would be my choice.


I was pleasantly surprised by the Rhodes sound.
Epiano 1, switch Velocity to "Light 2", and switch off the chorus, and it's quite good for a home piano.

JH.

#1579826 - 12/19/10 03:43 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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First I would like to thank everybody for having answered so quickly ! Actually, I'm living in a very small village in the "french Alpes", then I unfortunately can't try the touch and sound of these pianos ! All stores that I've contacted by phone in many big cities don't have Kawaï models, except sometimes CA-63(witch is too expensive for me). YAMAHA,ROLAND and KORG is all we can find here ! Sellers all say that people have lots of difficulties to resell a Kawaï DP on the french market. But when I saw Kawaï DP on Thomann web site, I fell in love with their look, and all I can read here are very good arguments.
I'm decided to learn to play the piano with a teacher(I've already find one to start on january !), and I would like to play classic and even "pop" or actual music pieces. I'm waiting for a great touch, and a nice full sound.
Thank you in advance for your good hints.
regards,
Jupiterin

#1579832 - 12/19/10 05:17 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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I've forgotten to say that I would be disappointed if it would sound too métallic !!!

kind regards,
Jupiterin

#1580151 - 12/19/10 04:40 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: jupiterin]  
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Originally Posted by jupiterin
First I would like to thank everybody for having answered so quickly ! Actually, I'm living in a very small village in the "french Alpes", then I unfortunately can't try the touch and sound of these pianos ! All stores that I've contacted by phone in many big cities don't have Kawaï models, except sometimes CA-63(witch is too expensive for me).


The CA-63 has keys that are, in my opinion, very similar to the CN-33. So if you can find a dealer that has both the CA-63 and any Yamaha CLP, I would recommend making the trip to try them out. I was quite surprised by how much I preferred the CN-33 over the Yamaha. But I imagine others prefer the Yamaha. To be honest I'd be happy with either one (was considering the CLP-340 which is 1700 euros at that districiz store I forget the name), so you can't go wrong but you might as well get the one you like best.

I ordered mine and hope to have it this week but with the snow & christmas I'm not sure.


#1580154 - 12/19/10 04:45 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: jupiterin]  
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Originally Posted by jupiterin
I've forgotten to say that I would be disappointed if it would sound too métallic !!!

kind regards,
Jupiterin


You probably need to play/listen for yourself as many demo's on the web don't really give a good representation. There are 8 acoustic piano sounds in the CN33 including two quite mellow ones (non-metallic) and a couple of quite metallic ones. You can either stick to the mellow ones if you like them or overlay (mix) two different piano sounds to get one you like.

I normally also don't like the metallic ones, but sometimes they are just right for the music you're playing.

#1580373 - 12/20/10 01:32 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: spanishbuddha]  
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Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
Originally Posted by jupiterin
I've forgotten to say that I would be disappointed if it would sound too métallic !!!

kind regards,
Jupiterin


You probably need to play/listen for yourself as many demo's on the web don't really give a good representation. There are 8 acoustic piano sounds in the CN33 including two quite mellow ones (non-metallic) and a couple of quite metallic ones. You can either stick to the mellow ones if you like them or overlay (mix) two different piano sounds to get one you like.

I normally also don't like the metallic ones, but sometimes they are just right for the music you're playing.


Even though the first variation of piano 1 is whatI liked best in the shop (on the CN33, that is), and the standard setting for touch sensitivity seems just right for that, I find myself playing the 3rd variation of piano 1 most of the time, which is much "darker" in tone. And I compensate for that with a slightly lighter touch sensitivity (light 1). This seems the pervect setting for playing chords and singing along. It's very mellow and unobtrusive - more Bechstein than Steinway, so to say.

JH.

#1580394 - 12/20/10 03:06 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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So I made up my mind, and I'm gonna order a CN-33 ! Yeah !
Regarding to all of your advices, I've no more doubt.
I still have to choose a color...white or cherry, others furnitures of my drawing-room,are rather pale too. But it's not such important...

Very glad of having come on a forum for the first time ! And what a forum !
Thank you to Jhaible, Spanishbuddha, Cunparis, Egallego, and Bluebilly.
I'd wish had some advices of "Kjames", but he was probably occupied.
Have a nice day, mine will surely be fine !!!

#1580397 - 12/20/10 03:22 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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jupiterin,

I'm still here, but just trying to adopt a slightly less 'active' role in the forum following recent events.

I hope the CN33 brings you many years of musical enjoyment!

Kind regards,
James
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#1580437 - 12/20/10 05:55 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Kawai James]  
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
jupiterin,

I'm still here, but just trying to adopt a slightly less 'active' role in the forum following recent events.


You are a great asset to this forum. I am not sure if it were you or someone else who recommended Kawai (in my thread) as I had never considered them, but I'm grateful to whoever it was. I really value your inputs. Sometimes manufacturers can be overly present in forums but I don't think that's the case with you at all. I hope you'll continue participating & thanks for everything you've contributed already.


#1580538 - 12/20/10 10:44 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Kawai James]  
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Sorry, but I'm new here and don't know what you mean...
I just wanted to have some hints about CA-18, CN-42 and CN-33 to compare them each others.
I had the feeling that you could help me.
Perhap's it's not too late...
cordially

#1580797 - 12/20/10 05:57 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: jupiterin]  
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jupiterin, the other PianoWorld forum members did an excellent job of comparing the other models you were considering. As such, there wasn't a great deal left for me to add. wink

There are of course advantages and disadvantages for opting for the CA18 (or newer CA13) or CN42, however for your intended purposes I believe the CN33 is an excellent choice, and one that I'm confident you will be very pleased with.

Cheers,
James
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#1581086 - 12/21/10 01:00 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Kawai James]  
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Thank you very much for having taken a little time to answer to me.
This forum brought me a lot,

Have a nice day everybody !

#1581616 - 12/21/10 06:52 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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Hi All! My Kawai CN 33 R has been delivered to home! I'll take photos tomorrow smile Thanks you specially to spanishbuddha for his help !

#1582251 - 12/22/10 03:32 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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Congrats YukiPianist. Nice Xmas present too. Photo's would be great, and let us know what you think about different settings eventually.

#1582651 - 12/23/10 05:49 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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Please post some pictures of your fresh CN33s!

Altough I ended up with another brand lately I'm still in love with the CN33 for a reason I can't really explain not even for myself smile Great instrument, no doubt!

Pictures pls smile


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#1585823 - 12/28/10 02:40 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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I got my CN-33, it came the day before christmas. The delivery guy had to wheel it down the street (on the palette) because our street had too much snow. It was very nice of him to deliver it in such conditions!

Unfortunately our hot water heater went out the next day, it's in our bedroom close to the piano so our room is a mess but I'll post pictures soon when I get everything finished.

so far I love the CN-33 and I'm very happy with my choice.


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cunparis, great to hear that you were able to enjoy your new piano for Christmas.

It's a shame about the hot water heater though...no showers for a few days!

Cheers,
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#1588451 - 01/01/11 03:15 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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Happy New Year to all CN33'ers!

#1588514 - 01/01/11 05:04 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: spanishbuddha]  
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Happy New Year to all CN33'ers!

Right, Happy New Year to all CN33 lovers and also to all the others! smile


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#1594459 - 01/10/11 05:18 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Upright]  
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Hi All,

New member here...thanks to the great info on this forum I took a trip to Rose Morris in London to check out a Kawai CN33 (alongside Roland and Yamaha)and went ahead and ordered last week - in Rosewood. Delivery should be this week - can't wait!

Got a good deal from Rose Morris and highly recommend them.

Restarting piano after 17 year break (35 now) and can't wait to get stuck in.

Stuart C

#1594470 - 01/10/11 06:25 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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Congrats Stuart!

Good on you for supporting a local business too - Rose Morris is a great store...just noticed that they're paying the extra 2.5% VAT until the end of the month.

Anyway, best of luck getting back into piano.

Cheers,
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#1594864 - 01/10/11 05:08 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]  
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They can well afford the 2.5% with the prices they advertise.They are sitting on a bit of prime real estate and probably get more footfall than anyother London store. Hardly a 'local' store or maybe if you live/work in Wesminster!

Well done Stuart for beating them down.That keybed is a treat to play on.

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Yay, another CN33 player. Prediction - satisfied user. Congratulations.

#1595445 - 01/11/11 03:54 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: spanishbuddha]  
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I've had my CN-33 for a couple of months now, and I'm still in love with it, I haven't regretted buying it for one moment, something I can't always say about other stuff I've bought.

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