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On-line lessons, anyone? #1797665 11/29/11 09:15 AM
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Hi,

I am a new adult re-beginner, and I am considering finding a teacher. However, I think the only time-slot where I could squeeze regular lessons into would be something like 10-11 PM. (Sorry, but during the day, I am busy with my work and my family.)

Obviously, this is way off the usual "business time", and no teacher would be comfortable with me visiting their studio (or apartment) at that late hour, and I would not like to accept any visitors that late, either.

However, when it's 11PM at my home (in Europe, GMT+01), it's 7 AM in Japan, and between 2PM and 5PM in the USA. So, theoretically, given the right technology, it would be possible to have lessons with a teacher in a different time zone, via the Internet.

I am thinking about pointing a camera to my DP, and streaming the video (and the sound from the DP) via the internet, to the teacher, so that he/she can see and hear what I am playing. Meanwhile, we could also chat via some VoIP solution. (Skype or something like that.) I have a reasonably fast network connection, and I can upgrade it, if the bandwidth is not enough.

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I see that the was a a thread about this on PW about 2 years ago (in 2009), but I am not sure if anybody is actually doing this.

What do you think? Does anybody has any experience with this?

Thank you for your help:

Kristof

ps. I know I can watch tutorial videos on YouTube; but here, I am talking about real, personal, interactive, one-on-one lessons, where the teacher is giving me real feedback.

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Re: On-line lessons, anyone? [Re: Csillag] #1797674 11/29/11 09:59 AM
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I take mandolin lessons one evening a week via Skype. I'm on the east coast, my teacher is on the west coast at various junctures I've had my lesson anywhere from 6.45p to 8.00pm depending on how schedules work out. My teacher would actually have an easier time scheduling me an hour or two later but our household is more early-to-bed, early-to-rise than yourself.

For my part, wouldn't change teachers for anything. An in person lesson is preferable but unlike the selection locally I was able to get a world-class teacher who is into exactly the types of music I like working on (i.e. not Bluegrass mandolin). And given that I'm sitting in my music room that time most evenings anyway it beats the heck out of driving across town a 45-50 minute round trip every time I want a lesson.

There is one drawback, a huge one really. You can not play together. There is a variable time lag of anywhere from maybe 3/4 second up to a second or more that totally whacks the timing of any attempt at full duplex playing. I really would love to be able to play two-part stuff together but it just doesn't work, with Skype or any other internet conferencing solution I'm aware of.

But it's pretty simple. I have a $99 external webcam and use my pair of inexpensive "studio" monitors, all hooked up to my laptop. Turn on all the lamps in the room (lots of light helps immensely with webcam video) and just make sure the camera is pointing correctly. Same on the other end.

P.S. For actually critiquing or making suggestions on your playing, we have found it best for me to send MP3 files of recordings ahead of time. The compressed audio on Skype makes some of the finer points of tone and articulation indistinct. By comparison, a recording with a portable digital recorder (or with the webcam mic for that matter) has all the necessary detail.

P.P.S. The external webcam and speakers are not required. My teacher uses the built-ins on a rather high-end Macbook and it looks/sounds just fine. The microphone on my laptop sounds like poo so I went Logitech instead.

Last edited by Brent H; 11/29/11 10:02 AM.

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Re: On-line lessons, anyone? [Re: Csillag] #1798334 11/30/11 01:08 PM
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Hi Csillag:

Scott Coletta who posts regularly on the ABF gives private lessons in his studio and on skype. I almost considered taking one from him myself. He seems very accomplished an knowledgeable. You should check out his user posts.


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Re: On-line lessons, anyone? [Re: Csillag] #1798766 12/01/11 07:18 AM
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I think if you review this online you will find somewhere and someone that you can relate to and learn via the internet. There is no reason why not. There are many courses online now that are available to teach you from home and at the convenience of when you have a free time slot.

I have had experience of this and find it works wonders for people who are desperate to learn but don't have regular time to commit to private piano lessons.

Re: On-line lessons, anyone? [Re: Csillag] #1798968 12/01/11 03:33 PM
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This topic was discussed a few weeks ago here:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1788399/2.html

and here:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubb...g%20for%20on%20line%20t.html#Post1788471

Maybe check with kaziranga and see what s/he decided to do.


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Re: On-line lessons, anyone? [Re: Csillag] #1799052 12/01/11 06:31 PM
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I also have experienced lessons via Skype and it works just fine.

Just a normal Skype hookup and you are ready to go.


Just search for SKYPE PIANO LESSONS via the internet and you will find everything you need.


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Re: On-line lessons, anyone? [Re: Csillag] #1800696 12/05/11 06:26 AM
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Hi Csillag,

Skype is a fantastic way to take lessons. I teach students all the time over the internet so I can assure you it definitely works.
There are two things I would recommend you have in place though before you proceed.

1. fast internet connection....cable modem or faster

2. A quality web camera. Most laptops these days come with web cams that are good enough.

Hope this helps!

Re: On-line lessons, anyone? [Re: Csillag] #1803407 12/09/11 06:40 PM
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Hi, Kristof:

Have you seen Jaak Sikk's site www.playingpianoblog.com? He is a young Estonian teacher with good English skills and outstanding technique. He offers an organized, 1 year on-line course (1st month free, then $38/month) and he encourages student contact via email or phone. I am sure he would take on a Skype student.

Best of luck.

Neal

Re: On-line lessons, anyone? [Re: Nealsan] #1803624 12/10/11 04:42 AM
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BTW Steve Nixon. Went to your website and ordered your learn Chicago blues video. Can't wait for it to arrive here in the Philippines!

Neal

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Because advertising and similar activities are prohibited here, if someone is interested in piano lessons please send me a private message.

Best wishes,
Jaak

P.S. Thank you, Neal



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Re: On-line lessons, anyone? [Re: Csillag] #1901032 05/22/12 12:02 AM
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Jaak, after a break I have started your online lessons again and am planning to go on with the 11 month course as well.

Yesterday I practiced minuet with right hand.


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