Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Fall 2017
Who's Online Now
65 registered members (AdrianR, ando, anotherscott, AprilE, Bambers, BachToTheFuture, 15 invisible), 779 guests, and 2 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#179523 - 07/12/05 08:30 PM Franz Wirth?  
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6
VMoney Offline
Junior Member
VMoney  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6
San Francisco
Has anyone heard of this piano maker?

I searched the forum but the only result that came up was something about Tchaikovsky's first piano which was apparently a Wirth.
A google search returns a bunch of results in German and Russian... neither of which I can read
confused

Any help is appreciated,

-V-

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#179524 - 07/13/05 04:04 PM Re: Franz Wirth?  
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 200
Wim Offline
Full Member
Wim  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 200
Belgium
Franz Wirth was a piano builder in Europe (end of the 19th century) who was a pupil of Bösendorfer. He made a lot of grand piano's in Germany and France (some are actually for sale on E-bay in Germany and France).
There is a foundation that bears his name :
Franz-Wirth-Gedächtnis-Stiftung zur Förderung des musikalischen Nachwuchses
Spitalerstr. 28, 20095 Hamburg
Tel.: (040) 338226 od. 6052236 Fax: (040) 339277

I guess you can find more information over there.

Good luck.

Wim

#179525 - 07/13/05 05:47 PM Re: Franz Wirth?  
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 21
AlexJBS Offline
Full Member
AlexJBS  Offline
Full Member

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 21
Klagenfurt Austria
Franz Wirth was a pianomaker in Vienna, Austria ! He worked from 1880 to 1928 on different locations in Vienna. He was a pupil of Ludwig Bösendorfer.
Alex

#179526 - 07/14/05 08:05 AM Re: Franz Wirth?  
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 418
Calin Offline
Full Member
Calin  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 418
Bucharest
I have seen a few Wirth pianos, they were quite standard Viennese instruments, nothing really special.


Calin

The Bechstein piano discussion group: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bechstein/
The Schweighofer piano site: http://schweighofer.tripod.com
(ad ) MusicNotes.com
sheet music search
#179527 - 07/15/05 01:23 PM Re: Franz Wirth?  
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6
VMoney Offline
Junior Member
VMoney  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6
San Francisco
Calin -

By nothing special, do you mean compared to other Austrian/German instruments of it's time?

I'm asking because someone is selling a 1927 5'8" Franz Wirth in my price range (sub $8k) and I was wondering if it was "wirth" checking out (sorry for the pun)... How would it compare to a more recent grand of that size?

I've been considering the usual Dongbei brands bandied about here as well as keeping my eye out for used Yamahas, Kawais, etc.

Thanks!

#179528 - 07/15/05 05:28 PM Re: Franz Wirth?  
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 262
Jens Schlosser Offline
Full Member
Jens Schlosser  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 262
Leipzig, Germany
A piano of that age can be still usable as a musical instrument or it can be falling apart. Condition is everything. Concerning resale value it probably wouldn't make much sense to rebuild this piano. So check it out with a tech to evaluate it's condition. If it still plays (and holds a tune, of course), decide if you like it and buy it or not. If it has a vienesse action, resale value would be close to 0$ (but probably even the vienesse makers adopted the modern action somewhen in the early 20th century). A more recent grand of this size would sound different and play different.

When you say your budget is "sub $8k", this could buy you a wonderful used piano. When I think of the comparetively few older vienesse grands I've seen, I wouldn't remember one piano I'd have loved to sink sub $8k in, rather sub $0k.

Best regards,
Jens

#179529 - 07/16/05 04:58 AM Re: Franz Wirth?  
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 418
Calin Offline
Full Member
Calin  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 418
Bucharest
Yes, I mean compared to other Austrian instruments. The best Viennese pianos were Boesendorfer, Schweighofer, Streicher, Ehrbar etc., as far as I know.
For 8k you can buy much more than an old Wirth. By all means, have a look at it, perhaps it is in good condition.
But it might have a Viennese action - if so, it has a different touch from a modern action and I'm not sure you want that.


Calin

The Bechstein piano discussion group: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bechstein/
The Schweighofer piano site: http://schweighofer.tripod.com

Moderated by  Ken Knapp, Piano World 

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World)
our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, Digital Piano Dolly, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping* on Jansen Artist Piano Benches, Cocoweb Piano Lamps, Hidrau Hydraulic Piano Benches
(*free shipping within contiguous U.S. only)
(ad)
Pearl River & Ritmuller
Ritmuller Pianos
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq 6 Out now
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


New Topics - Multiple Forums
3/4 question
by iamanders. 12/16/17 07:14 AM
A trouble spot question
by carolinakeys. 12/16/17 12:45 AM
Happy Birthday in the style of Chopin. WOW!!
by Strat. 12/15/17 11:13 PM
4Front TruePianos - 40% off
by Max_Forte. 12/15/17 06:19 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics183,293
Posts2,679,557
Members89,273
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Check It Out!
There's a lot more to Piano World than just the forums.
Click Here to
Explore The Rest of Piano World!!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0