Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Fall 2017
Who's Online Now
103 registered members (Allochi, anamnesis, Alex_, anotherscott, accordeur, AdrianR, 27 invisible), 1,369 guests, and 2 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#1789687 - 11/15/11 08:12 PM Yamaha U1/EP  
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 12
michigan girl Offline
Junior Member
michigan girl  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 12
Thank you very much for your help with a 1880s Steinway I looked at before. You really helped me not to make the wrong decision!!!
Now I am looking at the 2003 Yamaha U1/EP that was used by a little girl. Her parents are moving and want to sell it for $5,000. They claim that they got it new for $11,000. I am in Canada (Ottawa). What do you think I can offer them? What is a fair price and at which price you can call it a steal? smile
I need this piano for my SERIOUSE 10 year old who plays well and outgrew her electronic piano a while ago... I just don't have lots of money to spend.

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1789700 - 11/15/11 08:27 PM Re: Yamaha U1/EP [Re: michigan girl]  
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 10,881
Steve Cohen Online content
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Steve Cohen  Online Content
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 10,881
Maryland/DC/No. VA
The $5000 price is more than fair if the history is accurate. Theft is up to you.


Piano Industry Consultant- http://www.linkedin.com/pub/steve-cohen/6/b92/b80

Consultant & Contributing Editor - Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer

Jasons Music
Maryland/DC/No. VA
Since 1937.

www.jasonsmusic.com
My postings, unless stated otherwise, are my personal opinions, not those of my clients.
#1789712 - 11/15/11 09:02 PM Re: Yamaha U1/EP [Re: Steve Cohen]  
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 12
michigan girl Offline
Junior Member
michigan girl  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 12
Then the recent discussion about new Yamaha U1s for $5800 does not make sense... $5,000 for a 7 year old v.s. $5,800 for the new (which includes delivery + tuning)...

#1789719 - 11/15/11 09:22 PM Re: Yamaha U1/EP [Re: michigan girl]  
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 26
AGuy2 Offline
Full Member
AGuy2  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 26
Dixon, CA
The $5800 for a new U1 is right, at least in the urban areas with lots of dealers.

U1s hold their price very well and are much sought after. Check.the serial number to see if it was built for the US. If.it wasnt then that may giive you room for negotiating with the associated risks.

(ad ) MusicNotes.com
sheet music search
#1789721 - 11/15/11 09:27 PM Re: Yamaha U1/EP [Re: michigan girl]  
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,461
PianoWorksATL Offline
3000 Post Club Member
PianoWorksATL  Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,461
Atlanta, GA
Originally Posted by michigan girl
Then the recent discussion about new Yamaha U1s for $5800 does not make sense... $5,000 for a 7 year old v.s. $5,800 for the new (which includes delivery + tuning)...
The U1 is practically unique among upright pianos in that it is treated like a commodity. The super-low new prices are usually in group buy situations with other strings attached. Also, when a low price is quoted here, sometimes there is an agenda that accompanies the story. Here in Atlanta, in a private sale situation, I'd expect a U1 that is under 10 years old to sell for $4000-$4500. I hear Canada tends to be more expensive (new & used).


Sam Bennett
PianoWorks - Atlanta Piano Dealer
Bösendorfer, Estonia, Seiler, Grotrian, Hailun
Pre-Owned: Yamaha, Kawai, Steinway & other fine pianos
Full Restoration Shop
www.PianoWorks.com
www.youtube.com/PianoWorksAtlanta
#1789806 - 11/16/11 12:36 AM Re: Yamaha U1/EP [Re: michigan girl]  
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 47
DougMorgan Offline
Full Member
DougMorgan  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 47
Kelowna BC, Canada
If the piano was originally sold in 2003 in Canada it should still be under warranty for a year or two from Yamaha. I would try and contact the dealer that originally sold the piano to see if you can verify that the warranty is good and any other info they might give you. $11000 sounds like the current full-blown yamaha "list" price which I don't think anyone actually pays, even in Canada.

There are tables that give the age and the original market on the yamaha.usa website but they don't always work for Canadian-destined products. If you email the piano support people at Yamaha Canada with the serial number they will tell you the year of manufacture and the original market. I asked them twice and each time it took about 24 hours to get back to me.

Note that the year of manufacture and the actual delivery date to the original purchaser may be far apart -- for warranty I think you need to verify the sale with the dealer. From what I've been told the pianos are in a sealed container until the dealer opens them which might be a year or more from the date of manufacture.

I'm in BC but $5000 for a Canadian, 1 owner, piano that is in excellent condition and still (barely) under warranty would be a pretty good deal. We were looking at one that was 12 years old and they were asking $4500. If the seller is not the original owner I would be more cautious and probably wouldn't pay as much unless you can verify the history. I would have the piano looked over by a professional in either case.


The prices in the USA,especially California, don't seem to be comparable to the prices in Canada. Maybe it's the Walmart mentality down there or maybe Yamaha Canada is buying the things from California and reselling them here. I don't know but it's odd that for Yamaha Electronics the cost is very similar and sometimes even better up here. I've noticed that many Japanese companies that used to gouge in Canada seemed to have stopped once it got easier to just buy out of the states -- tough with a piano though unless you own a moving van.

I hope it works out for you -- we love the U1 we bought.
Doug


Last edited by DougMorgan; 11/16/11 12:52 AM.
#1789810 - 11/16/11 12:52 AM Re: Yamaha U1/EP [Re: michigan girl]  
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,705
gnuboi Offline
2000 Post Club Member
gnuboi  Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,705
USA
Originally Posted by michigan girl
Then the recent discussion about new Yamaha U1s for $5800 does not make sense... $5,000 for a 7 year old v.s. $5,800 for the new (which includes delivery + tuning)...


Pianos cost more in Canada, that's why. Try bargaining if you like.

Also of interest is that in Europe, they seem to just replace the dollar sign with the euro sign when pricing items, never mind that the euro (still?) is stronger than the dollar...


Moderated by  Ken Knapp, Piano World 

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World)
our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, Digital Piano Dolly, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping* on Jansen Artist Piano Benches, Cocoweb Piano Lamps, Hidrau Hydraulic Piano Benches
(*free shipping within contiguous U.S. only)
(ad)
Pearl River & Ritmuller
Ritmuller Pianos
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq 6 Out now
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


New Topics - Multiple Forums
MP11SE - First impressions
by OneWatt. 12/10/17 06:49 PM
Kawai MP7 MIDI
by kangolboy. 12/10/17 05:50 PM
Jingle Bells
by MusicaMusique. 12/10/17 03:55 PM
help needed with rhythm
by hast66. 12/10/17 02:54 PM
Too Many Notes
by ee375. 12/10/17 02:49 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics183,196
Posts2,678,130
Members89,257
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Check It Out!
There's a lot more to Piano World than just the forums.
Click Here to
Explore The Rest of Piano World!!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0