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New Yamaha M450 or M500 piano? #177775
12/29/01 11:23 AM
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Hello. I am looking to buy a new piano for my five year old daughter. I would love to get her started on piano lessons, and my budget is limted (around $3000 or so) but I want to get a piano that she can grow into.

I have a local dealer here in NJ who is having some good sales right now. I can get a new Yamaha M450TO (traditional oak) for $2695 or a new M500F (Florentine light oak) for $2995. Both include delivery and two tunings. Do these sound like good deals? Which would you choose? Any other makes/models I should be looking at in this price range? Thanks in advance for the help!

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Re: New Yamaha M450 or M500 piano? #177776
12/29/01 11:33 AM
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Marc,

I don't know about these particular model numbers, but my guess is they are the lowest, promotional models, made in America or other parts outside Japan. Around here, people highly favor the Japanese-made Yamahas over any of the others, the latter from which you may be warned to stay away.

Another point. There are no piano sales. Everyday, almost every dealer in the nation is willing to negotiate on pianos. There are just a handful of dealers who have "fixed prices," and even they have been known to come down "a little." Don't be confused by the sales-talk about a sale or deal that will only last for a limited time. Run! It's just not true.

At your price, I would seriously consider the used market. You may be able to find an older Charles Walter console. Try to find a tech with whom to work (to check out used pianos you are seriously considering before buying).

And a tech might have a lead on a used piano that is a really great value.

Good luck!
penny

Re: New Yamaha M450 or M500 piano? #177777
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Hi Marc.
Where in NJ are you? I've been to lots of dealers in the past few months. Maybe I could help.


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Re: New Yamaha M450 or M500 piano? #177778
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Penny,

I live in Lafayette (Sussex County) and work in Morristown. I went to Rockaway Music in Morris Plains, and they had the Yamaha's there. By the way the price on the M500 is $3250 not $2995. I could find no other Yamaha dealers in my area.

I actually first considered a used piano at first, but my feeling is that if I could buy a new piano (with a ten year warranty)for the same price, why not?

Any recommendations? Thanks.

wink

Re: New Yamaha M450 or M500 piano? #177779
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Last message should have been addressed to Steve in NJ.

Thanks,

Marc

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Re: New Yamaha M450 or M500 piano? #177780
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Have the salesman remove the front panels from the piano (both the top one where the music desk is located and the bottom panel under the keybed. Once you see how the entire piano is made of particleboard, you'll see that a good quality used piano might be a better option for your money.


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Re: New Yamaha M450 or M500 piano? #177781
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Originally posted by marc:

I actually first considered a used piano at first, but my feeling is that if I could buy a new piano (with a ten year warranty)for the same price, why not?
wink


In my opinion (I'm not a dealer, not even a player), a piano that is well constructed to begin shouldn't require any warranty-related work in the first ten years. We're not talking automobiles here. If the case and finish were done right the first time, if the action was well mounted, if the pedals and lyre attached properly, etc. etc., there really shouldn't be much to do which is warranty related. There is a GREAT DEAL to do to ensure the piano stays in tune, that the action is properly regulated, and that the voicing is to your liking.

I think you are MUCH better off used. (I wish you were out here: I have a wonderful old Baldwin upright for sale, as soon as our new piano arrives.) (that wasn't meant as an ad, just as a fact.)


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