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Here's an interesting article on the topic which appears today in many news publications in the USA: What makes a Great Teacher? The author is Paul Greenburg.


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Thanks, John! That was an inspiring article. If I had to name one common characteristic of all the great teachers I've known, of any subject, it would have to be genuine enthusiasm for both the subject and teaching.

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Great article! Ms. McKenna teaches at a school only 10 miles from my house.


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I was a bit disappointed in the article, actually. I think one can list common traits of a great teacher and he ended up not answering his own question. "I know it when I see it" isn't really helpful IMO. It's great to read about that particular teacher, but I wish he would have answered his own title.

On a side note, what is with authors giving a title that is catchy but then the content is something different? Can't they write a catchy article too


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I think that may have been the point - it's hard to nail down. Enthusiasm is a component, subject knowledge is a component, technique (pedagogy) is a component, but how exactly do you roll those together to come up with a great teacher? This article was primarily focused on the public school sector of teaching, where tenure plays a major roll - some say in maintaining or even promoting mediocrity. After all the teacher bashing which goes on here I though a positive article might help motivate someone somewhere to continue with their teaching.


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I think that may have been the point - it's hard to nail down. Enthusiasm is a component, subject knowledge is a component, technique (pedagogy) is a component, but how exactly do you roll those together to come up with a great teacher? This article was primarily focused on the public school sector of teaching, where tenure plays a major roll - some say in maintaining or even promoting mediocrity. After all the teacher bashing which goes on here I though a positive article might help motivate someone somewhere to continue with their teaching.


It wasn't a criticism of you, John, or of posting this. Like I said, I thought it was good to hear about something positive in the public schools. I just thought the titel misleading, and in light of the fact that a few posts recently have been around misleading/sensationalistic titles, I felt that this applied somewhat. I agree it is hard to nail down, but I think the author didn't even attempt to answer the question he raised.

I think you did a better job here by stating some of the things required. Why don't we list the things that we think make a great teacher from our own experiences? I think everybody has been touched by a great teacher at some point in their life, what was it that made them "great" in your eyes?

For me, patience was a huge factor. Many people have emotional trauma and painful childhoods to work through, and doing something so personal as music often draws out these emotions. I had some very patient music teachers in my past (my piano teacher in childhood and my composition professor in grad school), but ones that walked along side me and guided me, rather than scold me for not following their lead, or not doing so quickly. Waiting for when I was ready, and always encouraging each little step I took was huge in my personal development and my growth as a musician.


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One of the best teachers I had in public school was my second grade teacher (Mrs. H). It was obvious that she was very happy to be there. She cared about us and she made her class fun. One time, she even made us pancakes! Yum! When I was a young kid, I was absolutely terrified of thunderstorms. It was so bad that I would get physically ill. One day, there was a particularly dark and loud storm and I ended up vomiting in the trash can at the front of the class and had to be sent home (VERY embarrassing). The next day, she gave me two extra books to read for homework- they were about how storms and tornadoes are formed. Just learning a bit about the science behind storms squashed my fears and instead I became fascinated by them. They say "knowledge is power" for a reason! She turned what could have been just a bad gradeschool memory into a really great teaching/learning moment. I still remember reading those books and feeling something "click" as I learned about storm development. I didn't become a meteorologist but I did become more confident, more curious, and not so afraid.

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"...Eric Hanushek is a professor of education at Stanford and a senior fellow of the Hoover Institution there. If anybody ought to know the answer to that question, he's the one. When I asked him, his response was direct, concise, honest and just about the best I've ever heard on the topic. It's stayed with me ever since.

"What makes a great teacher?

""We don't know," said the professor."


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It might be just the right answer. I had one college instructor who had a deathly fear of letting the words, "I don't know," pass her lips. If she didn't know the answer, she would actually make one up. But, the students were pretty smart, and she got caught a few times; I heard that she stopped doing that.

Dr. Raabe, on the other hand, would answer such a question by saying, "It isn't known..." His eyes would rove the classroom, as he added, "...and it would make an excellent research project for one of you students."

I loved Dr. Raabe as a teacher. You might not think Plant Pathology would be such a great class, but it was very alive for him, and he showed us how it affected our everyday lives and really was important to us. And, "I don't know," is a respectable and honest answer.

"...he ended up not answering his own question. "I know it when I see it" isn't really helpful..."

Isn't that what the Supreme Court said about porn?


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Some of the best teachers I have worked with have said "I don't know." Those who know everything and are always right often don't and aren't.

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OK, but you're talking about two different things Jeff. It's one thing to admit you don't know everything - that is wise. It is another thing to present an article as if you are going to answer and question, and then come up with "I don't know." A teacher answering a question with "I don't know" did not first come forth and present something as if they would answer that question.


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I'll agree with you that the article was slightly annoying, in that the writer used a very good question and answered it by saying we need more Wal-Marts.

But ok, I'll take something of a whack at it. Best and worst teachers. Best teachers: have a real sympathy (or empathy) with students and can mix this sense of being on the students' side with the discipline of presenting the coursework. Worst teachers: are resentful of having to put up with another classroom (or piano bench)full of brats and use the coursework to, at best, insulate themselves from the students, and at worst, to torture the students.

Best teachers: have a sense of humor, a flexible personality, and a sense of wonder and fascination with knowledge. Worst teachers: are grim-faced, rigid, and incurious--- even fearful--- about knowledge and new information.

Best teachers: are fair and realistic in presenting attainable goals (and challenges), and are good at helping the students get there, even if it is not easy. Worst teachers: use assignments and exams as a monument to their own self-importance, and are good at punishing and threatening.

Best teachers: are a gold mine of information about their field, and like to help students find out what the resources are so that they can find out things on their own. They are frank and honest, though also circumspect and tactful. Worst teachers: are a gold mine of misinformation, and confuse indoctrination with education. They are accusing.

Best teachers: are respectful and respected. They demonstrate a sense of healthy boundaries. Worst teachers: are fearful, mean, and intrusive. Everything is their business, if it is another tool in their power struggle.

This could go on for quite a bit longer; it is very far from exhaustive. It may strike you that the qualities of a good teacher are the same qualities that make up a good human being. Unfortunately, like the population at large, some are well down the ranks. At least, they teach endurance.

I should go back and have another look at "King, Warrior, Magician, Lover," to refresh my memory about the qualities of the archetypes, and their shadow forms.



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Originally Posted by Jeff Clef
I'll agree with you that the article was slightly annoying, in that the writer used a very good question and answered it by saying we need more Wal-Marts.

But ok, I'll take something of a whack at it. Best and worst teachers. Best teachers: have a real sympathy (or empathy) with students and can mix this sense of being on the students' side with the discipline of presenting the coursework. Worst teachers: are resentful of having to put up with another classroom (or piano bench)full of brats and use the coursework to, at best, insulate themselves from the students, and at worst, to torture the students.

Best teachers: have a sense of humor, a flexible personality, and a sense of wonder and fascination with knowledge. Worst teachers: are grim-faced, rigid, and incurious--- even fearful--- about knowledge and new information.

Best teachers: are fair and realistic in presenting attainable goals (and challenges), and are good at helping the students get there, even if it is not easy. Worst teachers: use assignments and exams as a monument to their own self-importance, and are good at punishing and threatening.

Best teachers: are a gold mine of information about their field, and like to help students find out what the resources are so that they can find out things on their own. They are frank and honest, though also circumspect and tactful. Worst teachers: are a gold mine of misinformation, and confuse indoctrination with education. They are accusing.

Best teachers: are respectful and respected. They demonstrate a sense of healthy boundaries. Worst teachers: are fearful, mean, and intrusive. Everything is their business, if it is another tool in their power struggle.

This could go on for quite a bit longer; it is very far from exhaustive. It may strike you that the qualities of a good teacher are the same qualities that make up a good human being. Unfortunately, like the population at large, some are well down the ranks. At least, they teach endurance.

I should go back and have another look at "King, Warrior, Magician, Lover," to refresh my memory about the qualities of the archetypes, and their shadow forms.



It may not be exhaustive, but I think you hit on a good many factors. Is this from your own experience, or from this book you speak of (which I'm not familiar)?


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The experience reminded me of the book, which to a degree systematizes the features of the healthy and mature psyche. It also calls attention to the immature and unhealthy features (the shadow features) as a result of the stunting or arresting of the process of growth. So, there is hope that the growth process can be reinitialized.

They kindly refrained from entitling it "Jung for Dummies."

I've had so many great teachers, whom I've just loved. Then a bunch who weren't particularly nice, but were still effective. Then, some who were just mean, or hopelessly mired down in their own world-view and hostility, or trapped in a job for which they were unsuited.

If I haven't forgotten the original topic already, I could add that in music we have the wonderful advantage--- no matter who our piano teacher is--- of studying directly with the great composers for piano, and the geniuses who worked out the scales, the arts of scoring and printing, the secrets of building the instrument. The civilization which has put the miracle of the piano under our fingers may be imperfect, but it was good enough to do that; it's enough that you can overlook an awful lot of lapses.


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Originally Posted by Jeff Clef
"...he ended up not answering his own question. "I know it when I see it" isn't really helpful..."

Isn't that what the Supreme Court said about porn?

LOL!

I missed that yesterday. I was not so impressed with the article myself, but I do like the idea John had in mind and agree that along with frequent teacher bashing a little positive push might help all of use.

I have a partial list of my own, but it is not yet fully there. WANTING to be a really find teacher obviously is not enough (heck is paved with good intentions), but I think that desire is at the core of what drives really good teachers to become good.

The thought occurred to me when reading about the $25,000 bonus that this will barely buy a new car. Compare that with the golden parachutes executives get. It says a lot about our values as a nation.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Clef
I'll agree with you that the article was slightly annoying, in that the writer used a very good question and answered it by saying we need more Wal-Marts.

Yes, the article was pointless; however, when you go and observe actual classrooms in public schools, you'll reconsider some traits that you attribute to the worst teachers.


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