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#1780101 - 10/30/11 07:26 PM Re: progression/level 10 year old [Re: moebo]  
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I give my students quarters for keeping their eyes on the page.

100%!

they love it.

I'm not so rich tho.


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#1780114 - 10/30/11 07:44 PM Re: progression/level 10 year old [Re: Gary D.]  
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People who tend to memorize quickly and avoid note reading do need special care if they are going to acquire good reading skills. A balance is always what is needed. A good reader needs to be taught listening skills, likewise, a person who tends to play by ear needs to be kept solidly on the path of learning to read well.

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About reading: I have found that the more natural it is for young students to memorize, they more they tend to avoid reading for the simple reason that, for them, memorizing is easier. They develop from the start the habit of deciphering music, measure by measure, line by line, then speeding it up without or almost without the music. The only consistently effective thing I have found to counter this, early, is to give such students one or two new pages each week as a "challenge", to work out at home. Actually, there is another thing: continually bombard them with new music, because these really quick memorizers get things so fast that they may not be reading much at all after the second or third run-through. Transfer students are the most difficult challenge. Often they have become very good at memorizing and no longer think that reading is even a useful skill.

About developing the ear: it is terribly neglected by *some* teachers who stress reading but who do not the WHYS of how music is made. smile




Agreed, Gary. I myself wish that I could be better at teaching ear skills.


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#1780278 - 10/31/11 01:11 AM Re: progression/level 10 year old [Re: LeaC]  
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Originally Posted by LeaC
There are books known as "Notespellers" that you can buy online or at most music shops. They are written for all levels. The neat thing about these worksheets is that you can make numerous copies of each sheet

Actually, unless the writers stipulate in writing that you have their permission to make copies, you can't copy note spellers. To circumvent that, I make my own note spellers.

But you are absolutely right about those weak readers.


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#1780288 - 10/31/11 02:06 AM Re: progression/level 10 year old [Re: AZNpiano]  
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Originally Posted by AZNpiano
Originally Posted by LeaC
There are books known as "Notespellers" that you can buy online or at most music shops. They are written for all levels. The neat thing about these worksheets is that you can make numerous copies of each sheet

Actually, unless the writers stipulate in writing that you have their permission to make copies, you can't copy note spellers. To circumvent that, I make my own note spellers.

But you are absolutely right about those weak readers.

I would argue that there is a common sense factor here.

I would not make copies of anything that is copyrighted. But if a student, for example, or a student's parents copies pages from a note-speller so that their son or daughter can do the page more than once, I certainly would have no objection. smile

(By the way, I also do all my own materials...)


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#1780486 - 10/31/11 12:48 PM Re: progression/level 10 year old [Re: Gary D.]  
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Originally Posted by Gary D.
Originally Posted by AZNpiano
Originally Posted by LeaC
There are books known as "Notespellers" that you can buy online or at most music shops. They are written for all levels. The neat thing about these worksheets is that you can make numerous copies of each sheet

Actually, unless the writers stipulate in writing that you have their permission to make copies, you can't copy note spellers. To circumvent that, I make my own note spellers.

But you are absolutely right about those weak readers.

I would argue that there is a common sense factor here.

I would not make copies of anything that is copyrighted. But if a student, for example, or a student's parents copies pages from a note-speller so that their son or daughter can do the page more than once, I certainly would have no objection. smile

(By the way, I also do all my own materials...)


I also avoid making copies. I should have said that 1) I meant for the person to make copies from their own purchased book (not mine), and 2) I have a nice collection of notespellers that are copywrite free, some of which were purchased at Friendship House, some from other sources.


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#1781170 - 11/01/11 02:18 PM Re: progression/level 10 year old [Re: LeaC]  
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Folks, I am really overwhelmed right now, and need to proof my posts. I can't believe I spelled copyright incorrectly. Excuse me until I get some things sorted out that are weighing heavily on me at the moment.


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#1781640 - 11/02/11 09:41 AM Re: progression/level 10 year old [Re: moebo]  
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it's copywrite.. ha ah


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#1781901 - 11/02/11 06:03 PM Re: progression/level 10 year old [Re: apple*]  
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At this point, I'm too busy to care!


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