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wouldnt the vocal line have to be written in the treble clef below it? most of the notes in th e vocal are lower than the ones in the treble clef below it??
Or you could find someone with three hands or a duet?




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Yeah, failing to grow another arm, Im just gonna re-arrange it!

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Ok guys, one more question.....

This one is Bjork - Bachelorette written in the G minor scale, with Bb and Eb in the key signiture.

In one of the measures, there's the G7sus4 chord
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So G7 is G, B, D, F# so I assume G7sus4 is G, C, D, F#

The notes played in the measure are

C, D, F, G, A, Bb (not in order as displayed in the measure) so in theory, shouldn't the F be F# in this measure?

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Originally Posted by wayne32yrs
Ok guys, one more question.....

This one is Bjork - Bachelorette written in the G minor scale, with Bb and Eb in the key signiture.

In one of the measures, there's the G7sus4 chord
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So G7 is G, B, D, F# so I assume G7sus4 is G, C, D, F#

The notes played in the measure are

C, D, F, G, A, Bb (not in order as displayed in the measure) so in theory, shouldn't the F be F# in this measure?


G7 is G, B, D, F (natural); Gsus7 would be G, C, D, F (natural).

In a chord chart, it would be written Gmaj7 for an F sharp.


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So Gsus7 is G minor 7 sus 4 (I assumed G7 = Gmajor7) but guess I should have twigged as the score is written in Gminor!

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Originally Posted by wayne32yrs
So Gsus7 is G minor 7 sus 4 (I assumed G7 = Gmajor7) but guess I should have twigged as the score is written in Gminor!


Gsus4 is neither major nor minor, though to me it feels more major. The suspension means that the note should "resolve".


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but either way, G7 has f natural. Not to be confused with G major 7th which would have F#. I know it's confusing but G7 and Gmaj7 are not the same thing, even though we will say G when we mean Gmaj.

If it just says D7, it means D dominant 7th, so flattened 7th.

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I think I've got it cheers!

Gmaj7 - G,B,D,F#
Gm7 - G, Bb, D, F
G7 - G, B, D, F

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Originally Posted by wayne32yrs
I think I've got it cheers!
Gmaj7 - G,B,D,F#
Gm7 - G, Bb, D, F
G7 - G, B, D, F

You've got it! smile
But don't forget:
G7sus4 - G, C, D, F
GmMaj7 - G, Bb, D, F#

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They're included in my little note book wink Thnx

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Make sure you have got it Wayne,there will be tests at the end of the month.
No prizes for getting the answers correct, just punishment and humiliation for incoorect answers.lol.




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Originally Posted by Rostosky
Make sure you have got it Wayne,there will be tests at the end of the month.
No prizes for getting the answers correct, just punishment and humiliation for incoorect answers.lol.


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Originally Posted by Rostosky
Make sure you have got it Wayne,there will be tests at the end of the month.
No prizes for getting the answers correct, just punishment and humiliation for incoorect answers.lol.


... not to mention public flogging for spelling mistakes... wink

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Nay lad its nowt like a spelling mistake, it be yorkie. If spelling mistakes got us flogged neither Wayne nor myself would have any skin left on our backs!

Come on Wayne, lets have a recap,name the notes in Eb7 sus4 (Eb7+4) and F#9-5 (F sharp ninth diminished fifth) for a bowl of granmas biscuits.




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I've only just woke up, but here goes:

Eb7sus4 = Eb, G#, A#, C#

I really had to think about this one Rossy, so it's sort of a guess

F#9 = F#, A#, C#, E

so F#9-5 = F#, A#, C, E

If i've got this right, I want a ABF gold star!

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Hya Wayne, good morning to you...
My chord book says: Eb7sus4 = 1st Eb, 4th Ab, 5th Bb, 7th Db (Note no third) so correct!!!
( note flat rather than sharp..)

And F#9-5 = 1st F#, 3rd A#, b5th C, b7th E, 9th G# so nearly correct apart from the ninth.

Silver star awarded and title of "chordmaster general" on hold because of the ninth!

3 biscuits in post.




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"Damn" I wanted gold!

One bonus though, is that after spending time studying the sheet music properly, I was able to start improvising straight off, must be because I knew exactly what i was doing, and not fiddling, figuring stuff out as I go along. In future, I'm going to approach all new pieces this way!

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Thats a good idea wayne, and also a good way of learning. I always check out if there are any unfamiliar chords and learn them first, and then look and see if the chords are a mirror to what is written in the score, if not, I concentrate looking at the reasons why...

This piece by Bjorg caught my eye, because Bjorg has got quite a high voice, yet the vocal line is lower than what is in the treble clef of the piano part..
So what, she sings lower than the piano part? I think not.....

I would write it all out again and slip the vocal line into the treble clef of the piano part and then add as much of that part back as was possible to play.

I guess you took this route?

Meant to say, that really boring programme "coach trip" is on the telly, like I really hate that prog..
Just need to go and do some begging on the DP forum...back in a sec.

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Totally agree Rossy, and I'm also trying to throw in the screaming bits, where no one on this earth can possibily understand what she's singing, (is it singing?) any how, I like these parts. I swapped pieces by the way, doing Bachelorette first! It's cool!

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