Piano World Home Page Forums Our Most Popular Forums Piano Forum Anyone have info on the new Hailun V (Vienna) series pianos?

I was on there website and it seems they are getting European (Austrian) soundboards.. im in the market for a new piano and have considered kawai k-5 or rx-1 with millenium III action, petrof uprights 50" and higher, or the hailuns.. im assuming the hailun will be the most inexpensive, but could be comparable to the pianos mentioned.

i think hailun is still making a name for itself..the other pianos have already established brands and product quality..

Having seen and heard both the Hailun 178 model with veneered soundboard (I find veneered soundboards at this price point not much different to non veneered) and the V180 (V for Vienna - Austrian soundboard tonewood, from Kolbl) although the string lengths are similar, the iron frames are quite different with the 178 having the almost rectangular frame cutouts and the 180 the more Bosendorfer-ish (!) circular type - the 180 winning hands down. How much of that is soundboard v frame difference could keep PW aficionados debating for a lifetime. Hailun's selling point is, in this case biased toward the Austrian tonewood soundboard rather than the frame difference. In my view, the frame design (scaling) and using different hammers (don't know for sure if this will be the case in the US) makes more tonal difference than small differences in soundboard material. I would apply that reasoning to most piano designs.

The Hailun 168 is a shorter version of the V180 - totally new and at 5'6" a very 'creamy' sounding piano. Much like a Bose 170, but just that bit cheaper......

The new hailun's are really nice. Not concerning the soundboard country of origin, but they are now solid spruce, instead of spruce core with menaces spruce coating, (which is actually a very thin layer of spruce veneer). They are considerAbly more expensive than the older series Hailun pianos that replace (180 replacing the old 178, the 168 being a middleman between 161 and 180V). but very much comparable to the RX1, I think. They sound better too.

Good luck!

Try brodmann!!

Chinese or European or American soundboards could have no significant differences...

...except some are worth bragging about.

i heard the new Artist Series are made "completely" in Germany.

Bearing in mind the above, the first batch of the Artist Series had the case parts and frame assembled in their Chinese factory, the stringing, action, keyboard, dampers are fitted in the Wilhm Steinberg factory in Eisenberg, Germany. For uniformity, all toning is done by just one dedicated technician. (Ex Steinway tech). Hammers are either Renner or Abel, strings Roslau, soundboard Bolduc, pinblock 5 ply maple by Bolduc, action Renner, keys Kluge and damper felt La roux. The designs of the 187, 212 and 228 are the same as the PE series, which look very like S-way A, B and C models (!) the concert 275, Brodmann say, has similarities to S-way, Yamaha and Kawai concert models. (!). Brodmann are planning an upright 132 model too. Frame colour is gold rather than light copper and there is more detail around the frame holes than on the PE series. Inside of rim is birds eye maple. Main rim is of 3mm maple laminations.

Rotom,

How's 168 priced in Australia? I guess 180's price is close to 198, but I wonder if 168 is priced above 178 or not.

Tom

Actually,I'm not sure, I've only seen/played a 180, but never a 168. Sorry, but I can't comment because I don't know...

Sorry.