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Kawai MP6 anyone?
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If anyone is looking for an inexpensive MP6, and lives in the western US (along the I-5 corridor), please send me a PM.

This is the one I'm restoring at the moment, and which will be available in approx. 2-3 weeks.

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You should sell that and the FP-7F and buy the MP10. wink On a serious note, will the dealer not let you return it? I would think selling it will be difficult as is.


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Originally Posted by ZacharyForbes
You should sell that and the FP-7F and buy the MP10. wink On a serious note, will the dealer not let you return it? I would think selling it will be difficult as is.

Now there's a thought! If I was twenty years younger and doing daily weight training I'd definitely consider it.

This one I bought as-is, knowing it was basically sound but needed some mechanical repairs, which are underway. I wanted to see if it rang my bell enough for me to keep it, but it doesn't really fit into what I need for home or gigging now that my replacement Numa is with me.

I'm not worried if it doesn't sell as I'll still find a use for it, but if there's someone who doesn't mind some cosmetic blemishes but does want to save quite a chunk of cash, this might just suit them.


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Completely understand. I was suggesting the MP10 as a replacement for your FP-7F, which you use pretty much exclusively at home right?


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Originally Posted by ZacharyForbes
Completely understand. I was suggesting the MP10 as a replacement for your FP-7F, which you use pretty much exclusively at home right?


That's right. But at 53lbs it is possible for me to take the FP-7F to a gig if necessary. The MP10 would be nice, however, I think at this stage my priorities are:
1. A Kawai RX series grand
2. A Vintage Vibe EP (I like the sound better than the Mk 7)
3. A Hammond A, B, or C plus Leslie 122
4. A Minimoog

While I really appreciate the convenience of my gigging instruments, I'm getting tired of slightly inadequate emulations. First, though, I need to set up a really effective Ponzi scheme... wink


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musiciansfriend has five half-price MP-10s on their site that need work, you could do what you did with the MP6! They also have a couple that are a bit pricier in fully playable condition but still with some damage. It sure seems like a lot of damaged pieces available, compared to most of what they offer. It makes me think that the get damaged so much because they're so darned heavy that they get dropped! Or that their mass is such that they are more easily severely damaged from drops.

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Originally Posted by voxpops
If anyone is looking for an inexpensive MP6, and lives in the western US (along the I-5 corridor), please send me a PM.

This is the one I'm restoring at the moment, and which will be available in approx. 2-3 weeks.

Before you move it out, I'd be really curious to read any comment about how well the custom velocity curve feature works... and especially since you have the Numa, a comparison with their implementation of a similar feature would be very interesting!

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Originally Posted by voxpops
If anyone is looking for an inexpensive MP6, and lives in the western US (along the I-5 corridor), please send me a PM.

This is the one I'm restoring at the moment, and which will be available in approx. 2-3 weeks.

Before you move it out, I'd be really curious to read any comment about how well the custom velocity curve feature works... and especially since you have the Numa, a comparison with their implementation of a similar feature would be very interesting!

When I get done with the repair, I'll load the new MP6 firmware and try out the velocity curve function. Right now, though, I haven't even looked in the manual to find out how to access/use it.


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Originally Posted by anotherscott
musiciansfriend has five half-price MP-10s on their site that need work, you could do what you did with the MP6! They also have a couple that are a bit pricier in fully playable condition but still with some damage. It sure seems like a lot of damaged pieces available, compared to most of what they offer. It makes me think that the get damaged so much because they're so darned heavy that they get dropped! Or that their mass is such that they are more easily severely damaged from drops.

Yes, I noticed one or two of those MP10s a few months ago. It looked like some wouldn't even power up! I'm no electronics expert, so wouldn't want to touch those. At least with this MP6 it was only a few broken keys, some biffs and scrapes, and a missing pedal.


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Originally Posted by voxpops
Originally Posted by ZacharyForbes
Completely understand. I was suggesting the MP10 as a replacement for your FP-7F, which you use pretty much exclusively at home right?


That's right. But at 53lbs it is possible for me to take the FP-7F to a gig if necessary. The MP10 would be nice, however, I think at this stage my priorities are:
1. A Kawai RX series grand
2. A Vintage Vibe EP (I like the sound better than the Mk 7)
3. A Hammond A, B, or C plus Leslie 122
4. A Minimoog

While I really appreciate the convenience of my gigging instruments, I'm getting tired of slightly inadequate emulations. First, though, I need to set up a really effective Ponzi scheme... wink


Haha, yeah I feel you. Now that I own an AvantGrand, the only that'll top it is an acoustic grand. An RX-5/6 should work out just fine. wink


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I received a pack of new keys from Kawai US this afternoon. Unfortunately they missed an A out of the box, and so it'll take me a little longer to finally have all the keys fixed. The others slid into place without any problem. I also glued and reinforced the split end cheek. Not being a woodworker, I decided not to take the cheeks off and try to refinish them, so they remain a little knocked about on the edges/corners. I'm hoping to have an original Kawai pedal within a couple of weeks, and then it'll be ready to go as all the electronics and mechanics are A1.


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Sent you a PM as I am still looking for a stage pianer. I was looking for an fp4, but there are none around anymore.

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Originally Posted by ZacharyForbes
Completely understand. I was suggesting the MP10 as a replacement for your FP-7F, which you use pretty much exclusively at home right?


With all due respect Zach, after spending few days with the MP10 at home i don't necessarily think of it as an upgrade over an FP-7F in terms of Piano sound and action (unless you're after E.Pianos or master controller functions)...

You might like Kawai's interpretation of how a DP's action and sound should be like, or you might prefer Roland's, but, when played right next to an Acoustic (i did today at the store) IMO neither one is more 'authentic' than the other and both won't be mistaken for the real thing (regardless of what the specs say - wood vs. non-wood, 2 sensors vs. 3, texture touch versus smoother, longer action versus shorter, etc... etc...)


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For in-home use, I'd prefer something with built in speakers.

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Originally Posted by anotherscott
For in-home use, I'd prefer something with built in speakers.

That's one of the things I like about the FP-7F. It's self-contained and ready to go anytime I want to play, and yet it can also be hauled to a gig. And, for the size, I think the speakers are actually reasonably good; unlike those in my FP-4, I don't feel the need to supplement them.

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musiciansfriend has five half-price MP-10s on their site that need work...


...and they've been there for months. No one buys them, even though they bring back their 10% off used equipment sale every other week "due to popular demand".

I just hope that I have the cash on hand when the accountants decide it's time to unload them at fire sale prices. (Dibs on the ones that won't power up, for me those would probably be the easiest ones to get working again...)

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musiciansfriend has five half-price MP-10s on their site that need work...


...and they've been there for months. No one buys them, even though they bring back their 10% off used equipment sale every other week "due to popular demand".


aaaand they're gone, all at once, along with a couple of the "D" PX-330s they had. Evidently they remove used items that don't sell in a particular amount of time.

Anyone know how they dispose of these -- sold somewhere else? Sale to employees for cheap? Landfill?

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Anyone know how they dispose of these -- sold somewhere else? Sale to employees for cheap? Landfill?


Landfill grin

I wonder, why they don't repair them, no spare parts available, or no repairshop ?


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