2022 our 25th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Who's Online Now
69 members (AndyOnThePiano2, APianistHasNoName, AlkansBookcase, Charles Cohen, BillS728, 36251, anotherscott, Bellyman, 10 invisible), 2,116 guests, and 332 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 41
Full Member
OP Offline
Full Member
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 41
...kind of amazing, actually. I'm shocked by how much I'm digging it, the first hour in. I'd half-expected it to feel cheap and plasticky or side-to-side wobbly somehow, but instead it actually feels surprisingly piano-like (though I see where the electromechanical MkV comparisons are coming from).

And--celebration time--it's relatively heavy. Much heavier than I'd imagined it might be for something this light. The throw's indeed a trifle shorter than a more AP-like action, and the subtler, softer bottom-out feel I get playing most APs (as well as my MP10) isn't there--the E3HP's bottom is definitely more final--but the general feel is much more AP-like than I'd hoped it would be. I blame my low expectations! smile

As for key noise, it's actually not bad--more of a thudding sound than the clicks on my (former) SV-1. The SV-1's key bed was less even, too, and the E3HP's is almost perfectly symmetric, key to key. I think the reason some call this a noisier key bed is that there's the thud on depress, but also a kind of snapping sound when the key releases back. I just tried that on my MP10, and the action is completely (and I mean completely) silent on key release. So you're generating roughly twice as much noise for every key that's depressed and fully released on the E3HP. Again, not a big deal for me, because we're talking bass thuds, not jarring treble clicks.

Not a review of the board yet--I'm a Nord n00b, so miles to go before I so much as scratch the surface of the sound engine--but a very warm and frankly surprised reaction to the key bed. Very glad I gave it a go, as my alternative pick, the completely respectable but designed-for-other-uses Kawai MP6, would have been roughly twice as heavy.

Last edited by Matt Peckham; 09/16/11 01:45 PM.

Yamaha AvantGrand N2
Nord Electro 4 HP
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1
L
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
L
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1
Thanks for the info/write-up! I have a 3HP on the way; should arrive next week!! \../

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 6,730
A
6000 Post Club Member
Online Content
6000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 6,730
Originally Posted by Matt Peckham
the subtler, softer bottom-out feel I get playing most APs (as well as my MP10) isn't there--the E3HP's bottom is definitely more final


I think you may have put your finger on why I so dislike the MP10 action... it doesn't have a solid enough bottom. In my experience, real pianos have a more clearly final bottoming. I'm not saying jarringly rock-hard, but really quite solid. By comparison, the bottom of the MP-10 feels mushy to me, it doesn't work for me at all. Yet clearly, many people love it!

edit: and I'm not at all surprised that you found the action to feel heavier then you thought it would. ;-)

Last edited by anotherscott; 09/16/11 02:00 PM.
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,660
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,660
Heck yeah Matt! Stoked for you. I played the NE3HP yet again yesterday during a 2 hour visit to my favorite local music store here in Nashville. I was digging the action big time. It felt very close to my NP88. I'm seriously considering picking up one.

I know exactly what you're talking about in regards to the key clicking on the SV-1. The Nords are noisy in a thuddy manner whereas everytime I've played the dreadful RH3 action, it feels like at any moment the keys are gonna stick or just break. It's a shame cuz the SV-1 73 is one of the coolest boards out there. It sounds great but the action has to go.

I'm gonna do some thinking, and see what I can get out of my NE3 61 with the Nord GB61 Gig bag, and possibly the NP88. Now that I've got a serious DP in my N1, the need for 88 keys isn't as necessary. The biggest reservation I've got is the limited RAM of just 185MB. Of course, I only ever use really at most 2 different piano sounds live, and there's plenty of space for 2 large samples.


Studiologic Numa X Piano GT with Native Instruments Noire
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,392
D
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
D
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,392
Congrats Matt!

Wow that was quick. Like I said I was pleasantly surprised at how playable it is for piano. I still prefer the NP action but this will certainly "work".

The rub for me again was I really don't like compromising on the 88 keys.
I play and try to look at the piano from an orchestral viewpoint. Having the 73/76 scale can interrupt my flow, harmonically speaking with regard to voicings and how I interpret different pieces, especially for solo playing.

The smaller scale will give me ever so slight hesitation or pause so I'm basically thinking--where the heck am I here ? confused I know you can get used to it but I don't wanna....I'm already compromising enough playing an electronic keyboard in the first place. wink

But back to the E3 HP. Clavia has obviously hit on something very good here and will be very successful selling a ton of these I'm sure.

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,511
M
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
M
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,511
Congratulations Matt! Good that your expectations were a bit low on the keybed ;-)

Welcome to the red club, section 3HP!


Shigeru Kawai SK-2, etc.
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,660
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,660
Originally Posted by Dave Ferris


The smaller scale will give me ever so slight hesitation or pause so I'm basically thinking--where the heck am I here ? confused

Good point Dave. This is true. The NE3 61 causes some problems due to its reduced register.


Studiologic Numa X Piano GT with Native Instruments Noire
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 41
Full Member
OP Offline
Full Member
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 41
Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
The rub for me again was I really don't like compromising on the 88 keys.I play and try to look at the piano from an orchestral viewpoint. Having the 73/76 scale can interrupt my flow, harmonically speaking with regard to voicings and how I interpret different pieces, especially for solo playing.

The smaller scale will give me ever so slight hesitation or pause so I'm basically thinking--where the heck am I here ? confused I know you can get used to it but I don't wanna....I'm already compromising enough playing an electronic keyboard in the first place. wink


I hear you loud and clear, Dave, and had I not spent so much time already with a 73-key SV-1 last year, I might've felt the same way. Since this is meant to be a combo scratchboard + jazz/blues/funk gigging board for me, and since so much of what interests me classically is from the Baroque period, I think I'm pretty well set, so we'll see how it goes. smile

Update: I'm just grateful Nord opted for a classic Rhodes E to E with the HP, instead of the original 73-key E3's F to F!

Last edited by Matt Peckham; 09/16/11 03:58 PM.

Yamaha AvantGrand N2
Nord Electro 4 HP
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 19,097
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 19,097
Congrats Matt, and welcome to club red!

Yeah, I rather like the idea of the HP too, but will hold onto my original E3 for a little while yet.

I look forward to reading your more detailed review!

Cheers,
James
x


Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own.
Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player.
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 22
K
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
K
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 22
Hello from Athens, Greece.
I know that this is an old thread... but I'm really interested in NE3HP's action.
I have a Studiologic Numa Nano, with the TP100LR as NE3HP, but the Numa Nano's velocities and fast playing is unacceptable for recording or live gigs. I don't have any problem with the bulky feel, but I do have with the real response over the velocities, specially for low passages and fast repeating notes.
I know Clavia is doing some adjustments to the Fatar keyboards it uses,
so as I'm considering buying a used NE3HP for jazz/rock live and midi-recordings.
I don't have any problem going from 88keys down to 73 as I have an upright piano at home for practicing.
I could just go and play and test a NE4HP on a local store but I don't know if the action/response is the same as NE3HP.
As alternatives, I could go for a Korg SV1 which has a good action, but it's too heavy for me... or for a Kurzweil PC3 (76keys version) which although it's semi-weighted and heavy I will have a good action with workstation capabilities.
I always use a second 61keys(semi-keyboard) controller on the upper tier for hammond/strings/synth on live gigs (along with my Roland XV5080 rack or PC2R rack) so I need the NE3HP for pianos/rhodes and home recordings.
Any feedback would be really appreciated!


My Gear: Young Chang E121, Kawai ES110, Yamaha MX61, Yamaha MX49, Yamaha Reface DX, Roland XP30, Kurzweil PC2R, Roland SonicCell, Roland A33, RME Fireface UC, Tascam VL-X5.

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
Piano World Has Been Sold!
--------------------
Forums RULES, Terms of Service & HELP
(updated 06/06/2022)
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
(ad)
(ad)
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Estonia 1990
by Iberia - 04/16/24 11:01 AM
Very Cheap Piano?
by Tweedpipe - 04/16/24 10:13 AM
Practical Meaning of SMP
by rneedle - 04/16/24 09:57 AM
Country style lessons
by Stephen_James - 04/16/24 06:04 AM
How Much to Sell For?
by TexasMom1 - 04/15/24 10:23 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums43
Topics223,387
Posts3,349,212
Members111,632
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010

Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations |

Advertise on Piano World
| Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map


Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All Rights Reserved.
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community.