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Re: Pick a Beethoven sonata for me! [Re: stores] #1748592
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Looks like you didn't grasp one or the other of those 2 posts of mine, because what you just said was off the mark.

Hence, implied retraction accepted. grin

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Re: Pick a Beethoven sonata for me! [Re: Mark_C] #1748595
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So you don't have difficulty picking your socks out each morning? Because I sure do!

But seriously... Funny story (okay, maybe not "but seriously"): Yesterday, I was wearing one red sock and one green sock. A friend came up to me and pointed that out. I said to her, "Yes, and I have another pair just like this one!"

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Re: Pick a Beethoven sonata for me! [Re: Orange Soda King] #1748601
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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
So you don't have difficulty picking your socks out each morning? Because I sure do!

Hey, I didn't say no, I only said maybe! grin
Anyway, Stores may have been onto something. I was actually once heard to say that matching socks after doing the laundry was the most painful experience I had ever had. ha

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Funny story... Yesterday, I was wearing one red sock and one green sock. A friend came up to me and pointed that out. I said to her, "Yes, and I have another pair just like this one!"

C'mon, that's not a true story. ha

BTW, did I ever tell ya, one night I shot an elephant in my pajamas.....

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I once noticed I had a black and a blue sock on. However, the blue sock was dark blue and almost looked black... ha

Fun with socks!



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Re: Pick a Beethoven sonata for me! [Re: Mark_C] #1748610
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That IS a true story!!! Well, minus the "yesterday" part, but I HAVE done that multiple times, just to make that joke. wink

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Re: Pick a Beethoven sonata for me! [Re: Orange Soda King] #1748615
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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
That IS a true story!!! Well, minus the "yesterday" part, but I HAVE done that multiple times, just to make that joke. wink

You're kidding!!

Anyway I think you've told us everything we've always wanted to know about socks but were afraid to ask. grin


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I once noticed I had a black and a blue sock on. However, the blue sock was dark blue and almost looked black... ha

That's exactly the hardest part about matching socks. smile


BTW, we better get it back to the Beethoven sonatas or else this thread isn't long for the world.....c'mon Lilly, help us out.... ha

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Originally Posted by Mark_C
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BTW, did I ever tell ya, one night I shot an elephant in my pajamas.....


What in the world was an elephant doing in your pajamas? smile


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(arcane reference to popular book from the '60's)

I cheated. I googled.


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Originally Posted by BruceD
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BTW, did I ever tell ya, one night I shot an elephant in my pajamas.....


What in the world was an elephant doing in your pajamas? smile


It wasn't a whole elephant. It was just the trunk. laugh


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Originally Posted by liszt85

It wasn't a whole elephant. It was just the trunk. laugh

Get a grip, liszt85, this is a polite forum! wink


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Re: Pick a Beethoven sonata for me! [Re: violily] #1748665
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Originally Posted by violily
Originally Posted by BruceD
....you sometimes - but not always - double-dot the dotted eighth-note, thus making the following sixteenth-note sound something close to a thirty-second note. I think that this harms the flow...
....When you get to measure 20, where the basic rhythmic pattern becomes triplet eighth-notes to the beat, you considerably speed up your tempo; I can't see any justificatio....
...Both of the points you mention are valid, especially the random rushing of the triplet section....

Lilly: I agree with your "especially." smile

I also felt what Bruce said about the sudden acceleration at m. 20 but I don't feel the same way on what he said about those dotted rhythms. If anything, I'd say sort of the opposite: if there's a problem, it's not with any dotted notes being 'over-dotted,' but that many of the others are "under-dotted"! But even so, there's no doubt that Bruce has a point in that you do the dottings differently and inconsistently. I mean, I personally liked that variety (!) but I don't think most people would, and you'd probably get killed for it in an audition or competition. I think it's OK for there to be some variety in how you do the dottings, but you can't be so 'all over the place' with them. I think a good rule of thumb with such dottings is to make sure that you never, never 'under'-dot; but you may over-dot a bit, and occasionally even double-dot. Many would disagree with the latter things, and many would say you have to be absolutely consistent about the dotting, but I don't think very many would say it's OK to under-dot.

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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Mark_C
BTW, did I ever tell ya, one night I shot an elephant in my pajamas.....

What in the world was an elephant doing in your pajamas? smile


Exactly! (of course) ha

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(arcane reference to popular book from the '60's)
I cheated. I googled.

LOL!
I took a look at that page, and just for the record grin I ought to mention that the page is flimsy on what were the criticisms of the book. They were much more than what it says there, including that some things in it are just false.

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Originally Posted by argerichfan
Originally Posted by liszt85

It wasn't a whole elephant. It was just the trunk. laugh

Get a grip, liszt85, this is a polite forum! wink


Couldn't resist.


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Lemme get this straight....I had an elephant's trunk in my pajamas?

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Originally Posted by Mark_C
Lemme get this straight....I had an elephant's trunk in my pajamas?


Are you all that innocent, Mark_C? laugh Your innocence is going to land me in trouble with the mods here.


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Re: Pick a Beethoven sonata for me! [Re: liszt85] #1748676
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Originally Posted by liszt85
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Lemme get this straight....I had an elephant's trunk in my pajamas?

Are you all that innocent, Mark_C? laugh Your innocence is going to land me in trouble with the mods here.

OK, let's get real.

Which Beethoven sonatas are most likely to have an elephant's trunk in their pajamas?

My picks:

Op. 78, 2nd mvt
Op. 79, 1st mvt (hey, that's two movements in a row!!! ain't that something.....)
Op. 2 #2
Op. 10 #2
Op. 26, last mvt

Those are some good candidates. I guess I'll stop there for now. ha

BTW, I don't see how they could lock the thread now -- we're talking about the Beethoven sonatas!!

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Originally Posted by Mark_C
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BTW, did I ever tell ya, one night I shot an elephant in my pajamas.....

What in the world was an elephant doing in your pajamas? smile


Exactly! (of course) ha

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He needed more than one day, so he stole Mark's pajamas for the night. smile



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Re: Pick a Beethoven sonata for me! [Re: violily] #1748855
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I also think people sometimes go overboard when telling people to choose for themselves. It's very easy to ask for suggestions online, and it can become very enjoyable if you have no one else to ask!

I'll vote for the Tempest! It's the one I want to do next. . .


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