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Thoughts on pianos #1738437 08/22/11 02:55 PM
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I posted in another thread that I've converted to Ivory. It's vastly superior to the native Clavinova piano sounds. (And here I was thinking I just needed better speakers to improve the piano. Wrong!)

It's a bit of a hassle to deal with the extra equipment (laptop and a soon-to-be-acquired Presonus box). But the results are so breathtaking that I just can't go back to the Clavinova sounds.

With that in mind, I would rethink my piano acquisition:

I bought a CLP240 three years ago. (Today I would likely get a CLP340 or 440.)

I could have spent less by purchasing the mid-range Yamaha console, like the YDP160/161, though it would be hard to part with the appearance of the Clavinova. The polished finishes are not available in the Arius line.

Or maybe I'd go for the CLP430 for its polished finish and GH3 keyboard, and still not spend too much.

That way I'd get the console I want, and I'd use the Ivory sounds, which Yamaha cannot match.

The only thing lacking would be half-pedaling. Ivory 1.x lacks that. I didn't realize how much I used it while listening to the Yamaha sounds, but now that I don't have it I miss it (for some pieces). I think Ivory 2 has half-pedal. But I'm not ready to buy Ivory yet again just for that. (But Christmas is coming ... one can hope.) smile

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Re: Thoughts on pianos [Re: MacMacMac] #1739166 08/23/11 04:04 PM
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Face it...The only thing you need is a computer with your name on it. Then everyone will know it's your computer. And you will be in computing heaven...finally. smile


(I just couldn't pass up the opportunity) smile


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Re: Thoughts on pianos [Re: MacMacMac] #1739485 08/24/11 05:27 AM
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Why don't you just use the CLP240 as MIDI controller and connect it with your computer that uses Ivory? This way you would have the pedals working, familiar key action you are used to and great sound of Ivory software?


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Are you using separate speakers or routing the sound back to the Yamaha?

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Originally Posted by Artur Gajewski
Why don't you just use the CLP240 as MIDI controller and connect it with your computer that uses Ivory? This way you would have the pedals working, familiar key action you are used to and great sound of Ivory software?


That is what he's going to do. The version of Ivory he has doesn't support half-pedalling.

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Lefty: I once tried feeding sound into the Clavinova, but that's rather like putting lipstick on a pig.

I use a 4-speaker setup, two 34" JBL towers on each side of the piano and 2 KLH mini-satellites on top of it.

I feed the piano output to a mixer, along with another input from a DVD player for playing along with a CD, and another pluggable input from my cell phone (which hold lots of tunes and videos).

The mixer feeds an EQ, which feeds the CD inputs on a receiver. The EQ is set appropriately for headphone use.

The mixer also feeds another EQ, which feeds the two front and two rear inputs on the receiver. This EQ is set for speaker use.

The receiver's front outputs feed the tower speakers. The rear outputs feed the mini speakers.

Now that I'm using Ivory, the second aux input is connected to the laptop (instead of the phone). Soon it will be fed from a Presonus USB audio interface instead.

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i think the money you spend on a piano is more for the action than anything. And using a computer in a live performance can be risky. Most professionals won't take the risk.

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Originally Posted by MadForBrad
i think the money you spend on a piano is more for the action than anything. And using a computer in a live performance can be risky. Most professionals won't take the risk.


Einaudi's accompanists, not on piano though, on the Nightbook tour were using a laptop.

Re: Thoughts on pianos [Re: spanishbuddha] #1740469 08/25/11 03:38 PM
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i think the money you spend on a piano is more for the action than anything. And using a computer in a live performance can be risky. Most professionals won't take the risk.


Einaudi's accompanists, not on piano though, on the Nightbook tour were using a laptop.


If I recall correctly, the keyboardist of Nightwish has been using Korg keyboards as controllers for Oasys samples loaded on Macbooks in their live shows. So it does happen...


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