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#1737869 - 08/21/11 07:33 PM Give me something to sight read!  
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Pretty simple: link me to a PDF on IMSLP, I'll record it and post the results. My only conditions are that it should be a classical piece for solo piano. Also, if you give me Godowsky or Alkan, I'll try it, but don't expect great results. laugh

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#1737876 - 08/21/11 07:44 PM Re: Give me something to sight read! [Re: jeffreyjones]  
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Originally Posted by jeffreyjones
Pretty simple: link me to a PDF on IMSLP, I'll record it and post the results. My only conditions are that it should be a classical piece for solo piano. Also, if you give me Godowsky or Alkan, I'll try it, but don't expect great results. laugh


Waltz by Liszt

#1737880 - 08/21/11 07:50 PM Re: Give me something to sight read! [Re: jeffreyjones]  
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A few candidates from my to-read list:

Irish Tune from Country Derry (Grainger)

Antiche danze et arie per liuto, Suite No. 1 (Respighi, trans. Respighi)

Tango, from España (Albeniz, arr. Godowsky)

and, finally,

Einzug der Gäste auf der Wartburg (Wagner, arr. Liszt)

Sorry about the last one. smile

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Here's a charming but little-known piece by Schumann. The first of the "Sonatas for the Young", written for Julie:

To Julie


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#1737901 - 08/21/11 08:40 PM Re: Give me something to sight read! [Re: jeffreyjones]  
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I remember reading that you're an impeccable sight reader, right?

You ask for Alkan? Here you go!!

-Nocturne in B Major: http://imslp.org/wiki/Nocturne,_Op.22_(Alkan,_Charles-Valentin)
-Cello Sonata (do the second movement!):http://imslp.org/wiki/Sonate_de_Concert,_Op.47_(Alkan,_Charles-Valentin)
-Trois Morceaux dans le Genre Pathetique: http://imslp.org/wiki/3_Morceaux_dans_le_Genre_path%C3%A9tique,_Op.15_(Alkan,_Charles-Valentin)

I'd be interested in hearing these! smile

Also, not Alkan, but Bach/Petri: http://www.scribd.com/doc/17674819/PetriBach-Cantata-9-Sheep-May-Safely-Graze

I want to learn that transcription. laugh

#1737918 - 08/21/11 09:26 PM Re: Give me something to sight read! [Re: jeffreyjones]  
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OK, I've recorded everything I can with the battery life of my camera and laptop.. it was killing my neck too!!!

Albeniz-Godowsky Tango: http://www.box.net/shared/eo6rgv34pcr8jhedo7gb
Grainger Irish Tune from Country Derry: http://www.box.net/shared/p5x337e3q68m4dm9945n
Liszt Mephisto Waltz No. 3: http://www.box.net/shared/y5zdp48lkz0h2znop6ji
Liszt-Wagner Einzug der Gäste auf der Wartburg: http://www.box.net/shared/jqgcvhv4v8eqo55pdrq2
Schumann Sonate fur das Jugend, Op. 118, No. 1: http://www.box.net/shared/kn46l8yjpzavi6e41un2
Alkan Nocturne in B major: http://www.box.net/shared/m3ix0zy8u9vid5er5k01
Respighi Antiche danze et arie per liuto, Suite No. 1: http://www.box.net/shared/zb51e1vu7hy3o22fkkzz

#1737924 - 08/21/11 09:37 PM Re: Give me something to sight read! [Re: jeffreyjones]  
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Wow! You are what I'm trying to become. So did this reading ability come natural to you or did you have to work directly at it?

#1737925 - 08/21/11 09:39 PM Re: Give me something to sight read! [Re: MathTeacher]  
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Originally Posted by MathTeacher
Wow! You are what I'm trying to become. So did this reading ability come natural to you or did you have to work directly at it?


I don't know, but I have a cassette tape from when I was 8 sight-reading Chopin's Nocturne in F minor Op. 55/2. I couldn't tell you if it was good teaching in my formative years or if it was inborn. I used to say it was my eyesight, but I had an inflammation over the summer which has knocked it down and it hasn't slowed me down.

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Wow you are busy. I wish a had this work ethic. (I know, don't wish - do)

#1737933 - 08/21/11 10:05 PM Re: Give me something to sight read! [Re: jeffreyjones]  
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Originally Posted by jeffreyjones
Originally Posted by MathTeacher
Wow! You are what I'm trying to become. So did this reading ability come natural to you or did you have to work directly at it?


I don't know, but I have a cassette tape from when I was 8 sight-reading Chopin's Nocturne in F minor Op. 55/2. I couldn't tell you if it was good teaching in my formative years or if it was inborn. I used to say it was my eyesight, but I had an inflammation over the summer which has knocked it down and it hasn't slowed me down.


Did you at least practise sightreading regularly throughout the years, or did you not but can do it fluently anyway?

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Bravo. I haven't listened to everything yet...the Liszt-Wagner was a little mean to throw in, and you did a good job for sight-reading. I mostly mean to look at it to gawk at Liszt's genius at orchestration on a solo piano, and even then, the last part is rather over the top. I enjoyed how you carried the line in the Grainger.

What did you think of the pieces, for sight-reading or otherwise?

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Originally Posted by MathTeacher
Did you at least practise sightreading regularly throughout the years, or did you not but can do it fluently anyway?


I spent most of my free time at Oberlin checking books out of the library and reading through them.. almost everything in the standard repertoire and a lot of pieces that were nowhere near it. Mostly I was trying to get into the 20th century avant-garde, which I never did quite manage. I'm a romantic beast at heart.

By the way, after listening to the Respighi that was suggested, I downloaded Audacity so I could change the file size and upload it. It's my favorite of the bunch by some considerable margin, with the Alkan probably second..

http://www.box.net/shared/zb51e1vu7hy3o22fkkzz

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Originally Posted by justarobert
Bravo. I haven't listened to everything yet...the Liszt-Wagner was a little mean to throw in, and you did a good job for sight-reading. I mostly mean to look at it to gawk at Liszt's genius at orchestration on a solo piano, and even then, the last part is rather over the top. I enjoyed how you carried the line in the Grainger.

What did you think of the pieces, for sight-reading or otherwise?


Most of it isn't my kind of repertoire, which would be why I hadn't played it before. The Respighi is my favorite out of what was suggested, but it's too thickly written. It doesn't feel like it was written by or for a pianist at all.

The Alkan is a gem. I found myself playing it like it was Chopin, but finding it needed more passion when I listened to the results.

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wow! that's pretty good. i never heard most of these pieces either, i should also try sight reading them and see how i stack up to you :P but then i'll need to print them out which kind of becomes a waste of paper.

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Originally Posted by Lingyis
wow! that's pretty good. i never heard most of these pieces either, i should also try sight reading them and see how i stack up to you :P but then i'll need to print them out which kind of becomes a waste of paper.


I put my laptop in full screen mode and put it on top of my upright, then a click of the button turns the page. It would be easier if I had a grand since I wouldn't have to look up the whole time.

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Originally Posted by jeffreyjones
The Respighi is my favorite out of what was suggested, but it's too thickly written. It doesn't feel like it was written by or for a pianist at all.


It wasn't. What you've got is a piano arrangement of the orchestral suite.

It's my favorite of Respighi's works, and the piano version, while awkward in spots, is still effective. (I was actually reading through it a couple of weeks ago. It's really wonderful!)


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Good God. Please add that Alkan to your repertoire. You are totally correct that it is a gem. That was freaking AWESOME. You even did a great job on those running 6ths!! What the heck?? smile

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What I like from the Respighi is the Vincenzo Galilei piece, but then I went to a performance of the Carnival D'Aix ballet, and I liked Milhaud's arrangement much better.


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Originally Posted by jeffreyjones

Most of it isn't my kind of repertoire, which would be why I hadn't played it before.


You had posted something you sight read before and it was great. One of the reasons I picked the Liszt was the odd way it changed key signatures going from F# to C repeatedly, apparently using the key of C to eliminate excessive accidental signs. What do you think of this piece? Too narrow? I've a strange attraction to that three octave melody.

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Originally Posted by Damon
Originally Posted by jeffreyjones

Most of it isn't my kind of repertoire, which would be why I hadn't played it before.


You had posted something you sight read before and it was great. One of the reasons I picked the Liszt was the odd way it changed key signatures going from F# to C repeatedly, apparently using the key of C to eliminate excessive accidental signs. What do you think of this piece? Too narrow? I've a strange attraction to that three octave melody.


Compared to Liszt's other late works, it feels kind of awkward and spare. Take for example the Hungarian Rhapsody #16, which has been a favorite of mine going back two decades. The material is quite simple, but the way it's presented makes it build an amazing amount of intensity. The Mephisto Waltz #3 doesn't have that drama and cohesion.

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Can someone give JeffreyJones a piece that is impossible to sightread fluently, just to see how he does anyway? If he is willing, it would be interesting to hear, not expecting a perfect performance of course.

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Originally Posted by MathTeacher
Can someone give JeffreyJones a piece that is impossible to sightread fluently, just to see how he does anyway? If he is willing, it would be interesting to hear, not expecting a perfect performance of course.


I should hope you're not expecting a perfect performance!!

Most likely what would happen is I wouldn't sight-read it fluently. I didn't even sight-read most of the original suggestions fluently. They were really hard. smile

Roslavets maybe? I keep seeing that name but haven't tried any of his music.

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Okay, here's the most deceptively difficult sight-reading material I know of.

Two pages. Mostly 8th notes:

A little gigue by Mozart.


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Oh, that one.. I have that in Henle urtext book I bought recently, but I haven't tried that gigue yet. Stand by.

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OK, it was a crash and burn but the repeats were better, that's a tough little bugger! http://www.box.net/shared/jk72pfl3dd60fyjhsibx

I also tried a haunting little piece by Myaskovsky called Reverie while I was at it: http://www.box.net/shared/jucfvbon1159mv8vv138

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wow! You are truly amazing! Bravo

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Jeffrey, you're incredible!! thumb

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You should perhaps try to make some income from your sightreading. Set up a live video channel, and let viewers submit music sheets for you to play, and watch the ratings soar!

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Great quick job on the Mozart Gigue!

To pick something like what MathTeacher said -- "Can someone give JeffreyJones a piece that is impossible to sightread fluently, just to see how he does anyway?" -- how about something from Ives' Concord Sonata, not "The Alcotts" which is almost normal ha but really that movement would be pretty darn impressive too....

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I already studied The Alcotts in college, so that wouldn't be fair. I also have one of the Studies and I can't even begin to read through it.

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