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Am I crazy?
#1727551 08/05/11 11:30 PM
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Hi there,

I have two girls that have been playing piano for a couple of years. They've been learning on a Yamaha DGX xxx. It's time to upgrade...

Typically I tend to spend for the upper end when I'm fairly certain it is going to be used, and doubly so if I'm going to use it (I've decided I'd like to pick up were I left off 25 or so years ago).

So what do I have on my short list? It started at the CLP-440 and went pretty quickly to the CLP-480. After a while I learnt about the AvantGrand piano's and was sufficiently impressed.

I'd really like to get the N2, but I just can't justify that price. The N1 is the most I'd like to spend.

Am I foolish? Is there such thing as 'too-much-piano'? Is there something the CLP series would have for relative newbies over the N series? Or vice-versa?

Thanks in advance.

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If your girls have stuck with it for two years and you are confident they will continue - and if you intend to play again - there is every reason, assuming you can afford it, to buy the best you can. The N1 will, in terms of its key action, be entirely "future-proof". No other DP has an action to compare to its complete grand piano action.

There is also the matter of the satisfaction of owning something that looks, feels and is real quality. If you tend to buy good things, you will appreciate that.

The N1 brings the main benefit of the AG series (the real piano action) down to a more sensible price point - I would say go for it!

Good luck,

Steve


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ReductiMat #1727642 08/06/11 06:09 AM
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Reducti, welcome to Piano World!!

As a matter of fact, this is one of the few places I have seen where people will actually suggest 'go for it' under these circumstances, and I fully agree!! Other places are more filled with envy to the fact that you will be able to purchase what the ones 'recommending' the choices couldn't.

Most every other place would say: no, its not for your level, you should not go for something better (than what I have) if you are not good enough (which really means not at my perceived level).

I, on the other hand, tend to agree with this other approach: purchase what will satisfy your needs and wants and, if possible, that allows for future growth. With that in mind, and considering your girls are starting but considering that 'a couple of years' means they didn't just have a 2 week affair with the piano... I'd say the N1 sounds like a great option!

Zachary here claims that it is the first keyboard he has played that actually sounds better with on-board speakers than with headphones, so that means your girls will have a better 'acoustic like' experience and those great 'connections' with the keyboard. The action, as stated by EssBrace, is second to none! You'll need a true grand piano to rival its action. (I speak theoretically and from reports here as I have not tested it myself).

Then there is the other aspect of it: if you are 'proud' of it (in the best way, not in the 'look how much I spent', but that great feeling of having a quality thing in your hands) you are more likely to want to practice yourself, and, for me, you can't put a price on that... that is just invaluable!

So, if it is within your reach and you will feel good about it and not torture yourself about its cost... I don't think there is such a thing as 'too much piano'. While its true that just by having better equipment you will not make a player good overnight, it is true that better equipment will make any player sound at its best. Also, a better equipment allows for a nicer experience and therefore makes you and your girls more prone to practicing and achieving better results.

There are, of course, other options within Yamaha and other brands. But, if you have your eye set on the N1, I believe you can't go wrong with that one!!!

Good luck, and welcome again,
Rafa.



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Originally Posted by RafaPolit

Most every other place would say: no, its not for your level, you should not go for something better (than what I have) if you are not good enough (which really means not at my perceived level).


So true!


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ReductiMat, I agree wholeheartedly with Steve and Rafa.

My father instilled in me from an early age: "Don't spend beyond your means, but always try to buy the best that you can afford".

Treat yourself and your family to that AvantGrand N1 - it's a beautiful instrument, and far, far superior to even the best Clavinova.

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It's agreed then, it's the N1. smile


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Am I foolish? Is there such thing as 'too-much-piano'?


No, you're not foolish; you and your girls will have a completely different experience on the N1 than on a lesser quality DP. This will result in more hours spent sitting at the piano, as every moment will be a more pleasant experience.

You didn't say whether acoustic pianos are off the table for consideration.


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Originally Posted by 10fingers
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You didn't say whether acoustic pianos are off the table for consideration.



Good point here. Or acoustic pianos with silent system.

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ReductiMat #1727915 08/06/11 06:43 PM
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Thanks for all the help folks!

Acoustic is off as I need to be able to use headphones at times, I have no desire to worry about piano tuning and I'm pretty sure new silent systems are much more expensive. I don't know nearly enough to commit to buying a used one.



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