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I don't have lessons during the summer, so I need advice with the piece I'm working on my own: Prokofiev's Music for Children, Op. 65 No. 3 "Historiette". And what a fine piece it is! If you have lots of imagination, you can even find some echoes from Prokofiev's famous Toccata - namely, a hypnotic rhythm. However, I was unable to find an edition with comprehensive fingerings. Here's the relevant part of the piece: Problem 1: Just about where it says legato, fingering the descending left hand is giving me trouble. I'm thinking of: RH: 4-5-3 2-3-1 3-4-2 LH: 2-1-3 2-1-3 2-1-3 But this means crossing 2 over 3 on the left hand, something I've never done before. Am I trying to do something too fancy? Problem 2: Another part that gives me fingering trouble is the descending arpeggio-like thing before the sostenuto instruction. No matter what I try it just feels wrong. Perhaps that's just because it's not really a normal arpeggio. Problem 3: The first chord after the change to 2/4 is marked tenuto, to be held for the entire duration. But I cannot reach the other side of the keyboard instantly! What's happening here?
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Hi Olavi, I should probably be kicked out of PW for offering advice on playing a classical piece, but nobody else was answering your questions, so I'll give it a whirl and wait for the experts to come correct me. Problem 1: Your proposed fingering in the left hand seems WAAAAAY awkward to me. That doesn't mean it's not right, just that I wouldn't be able to do it. I'd be tempted to try 3-2-1-3-2-1-3-2-1 instead, myself. Problem 2: I have no idea what to suggest here. Problem 3: I'd pedal the heck out of that tenuto.
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OK I will try to help with the 1st 2 problems
Prob 1 LH starting with the 3rd beat of the 2nd measure(the D)
1,2// 3,2,4/5,1,3/4,3,5// 4,3,2/1,2,3,1/4,3,2//
Prob 2 RH starting on the high C: 5,4,3,2,1,3,2 LH starting on middle C: 2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4 (then your 5 is ready for the G#)
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Problem 1:
Also starting with the 3rd beat of the 2nd measure: LH: 1-2 // 3-1-2 / 3-1-2 / 3-1-4 // 5
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Hi Olavi,
I should probably be kicked out of PW for offering advice on playing a classical piece, but nobody else was answering your questions, so I'll give it a whirl and wait for the experts to come correct me. Monica K. You are hereby charged with offering advice on a composer other than Ludovico Einaudi. You have been found guilty and your punishment is that you shall be banished forwith from the Portal known as "Piano World." On a serious note, the fingering wouldn't be any different would it?!
- Debussy - Le Petit Nègre, L. 114
- Haydn - Sonata in Gm, Hob. XVI/44
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Thanks everyone! You've all been very helpful. Problem 1:
Also starting with the 3rd beat of the 2nd measure: LH: 1-2 // 3-1-2 / 3-1-2 / 3-1-4 // 5 I think this is it! You may have misread the last note, though, at least I found that: LH: 1-2 // 3-1-2 / 3-1-2 / 3-1-2 // 1 seems to fit better. And yeah Monica, I've listened to a few records of this piece and I think they must use a pedal. I guess it might have been the sostenuto pedal; I suppose sustain gets the job done too, depending on whether you want a more echoey (is that a word?) sound out of the two 1/16 notes.
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Ah, you're correct. I misread the last note. Good that you found it out.
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I still might need to correct myself: However, I was unable to find an edition with comprehensive fingerings. I ordered a Schirmer edition with a recording by our very own Jeffrey Biegel. I'll tell you what I think about the fingerings once it arrives. I'm not exactly holding by breath - most edÃtions have fingerings only on some pieces and the publisher had only one sample page. Meanwhile, I'm almost done with the piece - thanks again!
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I ordered a Schirmer edition with a recording by our very own Jeffrey Biegel. I'll tell you what I think about the fingerings once it arrives. I'm not exactly holding by breath - most edÃtions have fingerings only on some pieces and the publisher had only one sample page. Meanwhile, I'm almost done with the piece - thanks again! I got it now. The edition has good fingerings and the included cd is great. Definitely recommended!
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