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Need to Find Really soft artist's bench #1719224
07/23/11 10:46 AM
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Hello - this is my first post on the forum. Please forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong forum for the question I have.

Here's my problem/question. I have a pelvic condition which can be very painful in my left buttock. I've pretty much quit playing the piano for the past year because, even with a special cushion I sit on, and some padding, piano benches are tough for me to sit on.

I've been thinking lately that I'd like to perhaps try to find the softest, most comfortable artist's bench I could find...stressing softness. I was wondering if anyone out there could recommend a really good soft, artist's bench, that might get me back to playing again. I've played for 48 years, and I really miss it!

I'm also getting ready to start new medical treatment, which may help alleviate this problem or make it better..but barring that, I'd really like to find a soft bench.

Thanks for any suggestions in advance!

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Re: Need to Find Really soft artist's bench [Re: kawaipianoman] #1719269
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Janssen Artist Bench is the best suggestion I could give, both for seating surface and adjustable height (which can help a lot with discomfort while playing). But I don't know if that will be enough for you. I wonder if Janssen could make one with a softer top--- could be worth asking them--- or if some kind of foam cushion, sculptured to the contour you require, would do it. Or maybe a gel-filled cushion of some sort.

Let people not laugh at the importance of the butt. I learned the hard way where the sciatic nerve is located (yes, there; anyway, it goes through there), and all kinds of things were excruciating until it healed: driving, sleeping, piano playing, sitting anywhere.

Best of luck with this problem. I hope you find something that works out while you get better.


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Re: Need to Find Really soft artist's bench [Re: Jeff Clef] #1719313
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Thanks Clef - I suffer from muscle spasms on the left side of the rump. It can get very painful, very painful. What I need is something that doesn't have that hard "bench top" underneath whatever cushioning I use. It seems like it doesn't matter how cushioned I can have it (within reason of course), the fact that the cushions are on top of that hard piano bench top, gets to me. I also, use a donut cushion on top, which helps. But, if I could find a nice artist's bench, that is cushioned but doesn't have that piece of wood underneath of the cushioning..that would probably be best. I'll shoot an email to Jansen and see what they have. If I could find a good one, I'd probably by 2 - one for church and one for home:)

For those of you who can sit normally, you don't know how wonderful that is!

Re: Need to Find Really soft artist's bench [Re: kawaipianoman] #1719423
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Memory foam topping?

Re: Need to Find Really soft artist's bench [Re: kawaipianoman] #1719482
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Jansen is great...really great, but more supportive than soft. I'm not sure how extreme your situation is, and a real solution might be something like memory foam or a buckwheat pillow over the top of a normally padded bench. Among the softer artist benches are those from Burghardt. They make one for Schimmel that is very cushy. They are more pricy and a little harder to find, but very nice. We carry a contemporary style bench from Hidrau Model (HM) that is in between the two. It has a thick soft pad, but isn't tufted like the Burghardt.


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Re: Need to Find Really soft artist's bench [Re: kawaipianoman] #1719554
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Actually, while Jansen benches are great and the Burkhardt is also a nice bench, the SOFTEST I have seen is one sold by Staggs. It is VERY cushy and tufted with lots of lift - not at all Firm or hard. And if I get that impression with my, uh, girth, I am sure it would work for you. It's also VERY inexpensive. The model is the PB85. I think that Frank sells it on this website.


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Re: Need to Find Really soft artist's bench [Re: kawaipianoman] #1719722
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I suggest you go to a good office supply house and find a really great office chair that you can buy that is adjustable. They are able to raise up and down and you should have a great selection. Some office chair companies put a lot of thought and design into extreme comfort. I wish you all the best.


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Re: Need to Find Really soft artist's bench [Re: kawaipianoman] #1719814
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This might be a bit off, but have you ever considered a drummer's throne instead of a piano bench? I sat on one of those once and couldn't believe how soft, firm and comfortable they are. They also have all sorts of regulations, including height, so it could be also good for piano playing.

Something like these, for example:

Pearl (with or without the back support) or this Tama or this other Tama

Besides, the best drum throne cost only a fraction of the best piano bench. I am considering one for myself. Give it a try, who knows...

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Re: Need to Find Really soft artist's bench [Re: kawaipianoman] #1719917
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What about a sofa chair? That is what you can call VERY soft. I think my Yamaha bench is soft. Good support, very comfortable, pity they don't sell them anymore.

Re: Need to Find Really soft artist's bench [Re: kawaipianoman] #1721399
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I have two unorthodox suggestions.
1) Check out keyboard benches at a local Sam Ash or Guitar Center. They tend to be adjustable and quite a bit more padded than the Jansen artist benches.
2) Have you ever tried a drum throne? Especially a roc-soc with a back. It might be the most comfortable playing time I've ever spent when I borrowed this from a drummer friend. I also found the swivel feature very convenient. I know my fellow classical pianists would be shocked at the idea, but don't knock it till you try it.

Neither one would like right on stage, but for home give it a try.


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Originally Posted by kawaipianoman
What I need is something that doesn't have that hard "bench top" underneath whatever cushioning I use. It seems like it doesn't matter how cushioned I can have it (within reason of course), the fact that the cushions are on top of that hard piano bench top, gets to me.


I know what you mean. I recently had a mattress that was too hard and I tried a couple of different toppers. Finally I concluded that since the mattress itself was like sleeping on the floor, the toppers weren't going to work, since putting toppers on the mattress was like putting the toppers on the floor.

The bonnell coil, which is what is at the center of the traditional inner-sring mattress, was originally invented for carriage seats. This is the kind of thing you are probably looking for. There is not a 'board' supporting the padding, but rather a network of springs which in themselves add to the padding.

Try an ottoman with an inner spring. If you add a cushion on top it would be very soft:

http://www.amazon.com/Ottoman-Corduroy-Fabric-Sinuous-Springs/dp/B0031A3RDS

"This Sierrs Ottoman is what an Ottoman should be. It is rectangle, a height that matches seat height, nice straight, strong legs, a spring supported seat, covered with plain but quality fabric, and that has piping edges and two layers so that it does not look like a box." (reviewer of above ottoman)



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