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I wish there was something positive to say about your music but it is extremely juvenile, immature and cliche and as such...

nobody hates you or your music. This is a forum for musicians and people actually want to help. You lack some fundamental skills and your compositions suffer. All my criticisms have been free of emotion, direct and quite specific. I really don't see how one could take such offence to someone that took the time to listen, the time to write some ideas on how to improve.

I dont want to hear a word from them. If you hate my music send me hatemail, but dont disturb my thread...

Improve from Nikolas?

The drivels that he composes, what in the world can I learn from him and his music?

I can't stand his music, its pointless, and very immature and primitive...let me learn from those who can compose better then me, no problem.

Improve from Nikolas?

The drivels that he composes, what in the world can I learn from him and his music?

I can't stand his music, its pointless, and very immature and primitive...let me learn from those who can compose better then me, no problem.

I have notified the mods about this, but in the meantime: How on earth did I enter this thread and this terrible post? i haven't heard this work, haven't posted in this thread (until this point) and I've no idea how on earth your post came to be??? Care to explain, please?

Like you have said anything that is less agressive right?
I played you with the same token, but you dont see me running to the mods, I have done nothing wrong.

I guess you cant handle the same treatment you give to others...

This is a moderated place (like every forum I've been to be honest). Mods and admins are here to moderate things and try to keep it civilized. It seems reasonable to ask them to quiet things down. If you feel I've said something as aggressive as the things you say to me by all means notify the mods yourself.

Personally I find that I attempted to offer feedback in many different parts of a music work (the score, the recording, the music), and you turned everything down in a most aggressive and insulting manner. I still fail to see how I was treated with the same token or treatment.

Let it go Saul. Those who offer 'helpful' criticism when it comes to the arts are trying to show you how they create. Which is unhelpful in any art. Why? Because it's subjective! Something many on these forums either don't get or don't want to get.

They compare and contrast to what they were taught was good or bad - that in itself is useless in the arts as good and bad are judged by stodgy types who, like you suggested, have problems all their own.

My suggestion is to stop posting your music here and cast your pearls where they won't be cast aside.

Let it go Saul. Those who offer 'helpful' criticism when it comes to the arts are trying to show you how they create. Which is unhelpful in any art. Why? Because it's subjective! Something many on these forums either don't get or don't want to get.

They compare and contrast to what they were taught was good or bad - that in itself is useless in the arts as good and bad are judged by stodgy types who, like you suggested, have problems all their own.

My suggestion is to stop posting your music here and cast your pearls where they won't be cast aside.

This is NOT a reply to Saul!

I have provided feedback to Saul, both positive and negative. (a couple of examples can be found Here and Here. That, along with my 'drivel' (the tonal one that Saul linked in his other thread) should provide an idea that I'm not obsessed with a person I don't know, have not met and cannot judge. I judge music works.

Now, on a further thought, if someone is offering his works to the public, like it or not, they should be ready to receive any kind of criticism! Can you imagine Britney Spears whining that people do not like her voice? Or Sir Paul McCartney complaining that people do not like a song he did? A public voice and a public work is exactly that: public. As others have said, if the criticism is driven by hate, or revenge, or idiocy, or ignorance, one can simply ignore it. If the criticism is driven by more 'noble' ideas, then why not take something into account?

Rachel: The idea of learning itself is to analyse, see what others did and follow (or go the opposite direction). In fact one could argue that Saul's works follow that which he considers good against bad. Of course everyone has issues, but it really depends if they take it out on others or not really!

Anyhow, it's getting late here in Greece, so I will crash in a little while.

Very pretty with some interesting harmonic turns. However, I'm still listening and I couldn't hum the melody to you. Also, the piece is half over before there's any significant textural change. The second half is a bit more interesting than the first. Good luck.

I agree with Steve on this one. I liked the begin just as much as the end though, If there is any one thing I would say, it would be that I would have made it a bit shorter. But still, good work