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I have been saving up for a piano for a long time and was in the store today, and just can't decide. I finally decided on Yamaha over Kawai as I like the overall sound/touch better. I have played @ 10 years growing up and completed my grade 8 piano exam with royal conservatory of music (canada). I have 3 children I would like to learn piano when they get older, as well.

I am deciding between the P22 (really like the sound of)=for 7000 Canadian, with 2 tunings/delivery/taxes included
and the U1 (like the sound of too, they same pretty similar to me, but maybe the P22 a bit better for the sound)=9000 Cad with delivery/tunings/taxes incl.

Which do I go with. I like the sound of the P22 and that it is $2000 less, but I am hung up on the face that everyone here on these forums says the U1 is a superior piano over so many others/plus it is Japanese made and P22 is not.

I want my pano to last a lifetime. It's not like in 10 or even 30 years the P22 will just fall apart or suddenly sound really bad right? What's the big deal about Japan made?

My Q is, which piano do you all recommend?? Thanks!

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The P22 will absolutely last you 50 years. If you liked it better, there is no reason not to go for it. The U1 is meant to be a superior piano but its only superior if you think its superior. wink

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I'd go with the U1. The benefits of the U1 will be realized over many years.

I think if you played several of each, you'd come to like the U1 better. It is hard to overcome the physics of string length. Plus, the U1 is Japanese-made.


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Another Q-
-Are these fair prices?
-I like the look of both the black or dark brown walnut finishes, just wondering if anyone knows if the black required way more dusting. If they required equal care, I think I would go with the black as I love the look of it so much, but if I have to dust if 3 times as often as the dark walknut, I might go with the dark walnut instead.
-Also, the polished/matte finish is said to show fingerprints more but scratch less easier than the glossy finish (black). Any experience/info in this area?

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1. Other Canadian posters reported similar prices.

2. Depends on how much light there is in the room wink My piano is in a relatively dark part of the home, but it does get dusted once in a while. Usually the dust is not noticeable.

3. Fingerprints wipe off more easily on the glossy finish, but scratches are harder to repair on the glossy finish. Markers could work for a quick fix, I suppose. Just don't scratch it!

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Here are some things to consider:

1. You could get a used U1 for a much lower price. Check Craigslist for less than 10 year old models tbat were bought in Canada.
2. I personally liked the music desk on the P22 better than the U1, especially with young children, the P22 will be more solid
3. The U-1 will have better resale value as it is like the gold standard for used pianos
4. The U1 price seems OK, but the price quoted for the P22 seems a bit high if it is made in China. The T118 is at about $5K and is approximately the same size as the U1, but made in China.

I know that the above does not make your decision any easier, but they are things to ponder.

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I think the gloss black is far worse over time as far as showing defects and more difficult than a satin finish to blend in a repair. The prices sound way high for the little difference in exchange rates, like $3000.

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I vote for the Japanese made U1 smile


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