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Steinway Crown Jewel #1706731
07/03/11 04:24 PM
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Is the Steinway Crown Jewel model L a better performing or sounding piano, or is the extra cost simply related to the wood used in the cabinet construction? thank you, johannes

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Re: Steinway Crown Jewel [Re: johannes1] #1706756
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Hi Johannes -

I'm fairly certain that the extra cost is related to the wood used in - and design of - the cabinet.


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Re: Steinway Crown Jewel [Re: johannes1] #1706784
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Is just the wood.


Re: Steinway Crown Jewel [Re: johannes1] #1706962
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Johannes,
Hi! I don't think that even the wood used for cabinet construction is any different than the standard counterparts...it's just the veneer which is different.


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Re: Steinway Crown Jewel [Re: johannes1] #1707028
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veneer is very expensive, it can put the price of the piano through the roof.

Re: Steinway Crown Jewel [Re: johannes1] #1707417
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A natural wood veneer, usually an exotic hardwood or fruitwood, can add a good 30-50% to the cost of the same piano in ebony. An art case piano can be almost double the cost of the standard ebonized piano. There's a lot of painstaking work in just restoring a natural wood veneer or artcase, let alone in creating it. That's why you hardly see them anymore. There are few craftsmen that can do that kind of work, an the cost is enormous. Most fo the art case and wood veneer pianos you see these days are rebuilt vintage models.


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Re: Steinway Crown Jewel [Re: crogersrx] #1707603
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Thanks to all of you for the information

Re: Steinway Crown Jewel [Re: johannes1] #1707622
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A member of a German piano forum wrote that his father-in-law suppliers veneers to (amongst others) Steinway and Steingraeber, and that the veneer for a piano (even a fancy one) does not cost thousands upon thousands of dollars. Compared to the price of a new piano, it's actually cheap, at typicaly $15 to $60 per square meter, and perhaps 6 to 8 sq.m. required per piano, i.e. a cost of a few hundreds of dollars, at most.

But the piano manufacturers charge a premium for it anyway. It's marketing voodoo.


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Re: Steinway Crown Jewel [Re: johannes1] #1710828
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The only difference is the veneer.


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