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My new term for adult beginners! #1696499
06/16/11 03:13 PM
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So, some/many of us here, like me, started piano as adults, but the title "adult beginner"  just doesn't really work for a lot us anymore. Like for myself, I've been playing for more than 10 years now. So I thought of a new title:

Adult began-er!! You know, since I began as an adult, but I'm not a beginner anymore. So, what do you think? 

I'm over-tired and under-caffeinated, so I think it's sheer brilliance . If you agree, please start using this term. laugh

(P.S. as far as I know, I just made this term up, but if you've heard it before, please let me know.)


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696506
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Hi ShiroKuro,

It's an interesting question, I think. Not too long ago I was wondering about it, since I told someone I was an adult beginner and they misunderstood that to mean that I was a beginner. I've been playing for fifteen years.

My conclusion was finally that when you reach a certain level, you're not much different than many people who began as children. And, if you're as advanced as them, it becomes less important that you started as an adult. It's nothing more than a biographical fact.

Some great (food) chefs learn their trade from chef parents as children, while others start their careers later. But there's no need for a special term for the ones who begin late! Nor is there in any other profession or hobby. Why should there be in piano?

I suspect that there are various reasons for the 'childhood fetish' which surrounds the piano. It's certainly widespread. I for one don't understand it.

Maybe we should all simply be described as musicians?



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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: charleslang] #1696510
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Originally Posted by charleslang

Maybe we should all simply be described as musicians?



Absolutely.

I may be an adult and a kinda-sorta beginner - but that's too much of a mouthful.

I'm just a mucisian/pianist. Not as good as some, better than others - but still a pianist! I'm sure society as a whole can deal with and understand the fact that there are all different degrees of musicians/pianists without the need to pigeon-hole ourselves.

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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696511
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Maybe we should all simply be described as musicians


Yes, of course you're right. But I like the distorted grammaticality of the word began-er...


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696512
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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
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Maybe we should all simply be described as musicians


Yes, of course you're right. But I like the distorted grammaticality of the word began-er...


If it makes you feel good, I officially(?!) declare you an Adult Began-er! smile


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696515
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Something about calling myself a began-er makes me want to cut the sleeves off my flannel shirt and strum a banjo.

I think it is a clever term but I must agree with Charleslang on this one. It doesn't really matter where we started but rather where we are now and how we have progressed.

I am a gonna stick with *noodler* however as that's an ongoing thang!

Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696518
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Mr S-H, I think you're pretty much a professional, maybe you should go with "noodlist"

(sorry, I'm having a distorted grammaticality day here...)


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696519
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dear pianoholicsanonimous, my name's wayne and I've been a beganner for 2yrs!

Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696521
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I think we should just rename ABF as "Friendly Piano Player Forum" and another as "Unfriendly Piano Player Forum"

... wink


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: Andy Platt] #1696526
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Originally Posted by Andy Platt
I think we should just rename ABF as "Friendly Piano Player Forum" and another as "Unfriendly Piano Player Forum"

... wink

I think 'began-er' is very clever.

I also think that the 'Unfriendly Piano Player Forum' isn't even at Piano World. grin


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: chercherchopin] #1696529
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What's an unfriendly piano?

"Forum for players of unfriendly pianos" --sounds like a support group for owners of landfill pianos, maybe?


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696530
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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
What's an unfriendly piano?


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696531
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Andy Platt
"I think we should just rename ABF as "Friendly Piano Player Forum" and another as "Unfriendly Piano Player Forum"

ShiroKuro
"What's an unfriendly piano? "
"Forum for players of unfriendly pianos" --sounds like a support group for owners of landfill pianos, maybe?"


Hope that wasn't directed at me lol, i didn't mean to be unfriendly, was just joking smile

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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696534
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omg, BenPiano, that photo is absolutely HILARIOUS! laugh laugh


Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696548
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Yes, my choice of words wasn't great wink

But it does allow me to add one more forum: "Red Piano Player Forum".



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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696552
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oh yes, I love began-er! lol.... (though I'm still a beginner)....

And Mr. Super-Hunky can start a noodlist camp!!!!!

Ben,....DA dum...DA dum....DA dum, Da dum Da dum..... love your unfriendly piano!


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: Andy Platt] #1696556
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Originally Posted by Andy Platt
Yes, my choice of words wasn't great wink

But it does allow me to add one more forum: "Red Piano Player Forum".



I saw this on Rozina's yt chanel(another pwf member)

UndyingAnguish (3 weeks ago)

Beautiful playing! I started playing the piano at 24 too and I love it! It's my true passion. Keep in touch.
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wonder if I found Cayts?

Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: wayne33yrs] #1696564
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Originally Posted by wayne32yrs
Originally Posted by Andy Platt
Yes, my choice of words wasn't great wink

But it does allow me to add one more forum: "Red Piano Player Forum".



I saw this on Rozina's yt chanel(another pwf member)

UndyingAnguish (3 weeks ago)

Beautiful playing! I started playing the piano at 24 too and I love it! It's my true passion. Keep in touch.
-Clay

http://www.youtube.com/user/UndyingAnguish


wonder if I found Cayts?

It doesn't add up...started at 24, has said he is 60, but in his profile it says 1970, which would make him 41.......hmmmmmmmmmm weird.


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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696569
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Re: My new term for adult beginners! [Re: ShiroKuro] #1696573
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I think began-er is funny and appropriate.

Unfortunately I had a couple of years of lessons when I was a teenager, so it doesn't quite fit.

OTOH, Joe's Late Bloomers is a perfect description. I'm going to be really good, when I'm 64. Oh, wait :\ laugh

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