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Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: MathTeacher] #1692176
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Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: MathTeacher] #1692178
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Chopin again, the B-flat minor Mazurka Op. 24/4 has a recurring descending minor seventh. It's not really a melody, but it's a striking enough passage that it's what most people remember of the piece having heard it.

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Originally Posted by Lingyis
Originally Posted by Pogorelich.
I can think of a really good example with ascending 7ths.... the whole piece is flooded with them actually. Any guesses?


10/10? even if those aren't really melodies...

there are some descending 7ths in 25/1.

i should make it a habit to pay attention to intervals a bit more, seems like a good exercise.


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Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: MathTeacher] #1692239
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If you need to sing a minor 7th it may be easier to think down an octave and up a step, than to recall a melody.

Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: jeffreyjones] #1692248
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Originally Posted by jeffreyjones
Chopin again, the B-flat minor Mazurka Op. 24/4 has a recurring descending minor seventh. It's not really a melody, but it's a striking enough passage that it's what most people remember of the piece having heard it.

Great get!!! thumb
I want to smack myself on the head for not thinking of it, because it's one of my favorite pieces. And BTW I think it's at least real close to being 'really a melody.'

Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: Ferdinand] #1692273
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Originally Posted by Ferdinand
If you need to sing a minor 7th it may be easier to think down an octave and up a step, than to recall a melody.


This. Most definitely. In my choir, we call it the "Bass trick", hehe. Basses sometimes have to do octave leaps, so we just think up a step or a third (or whatever the short interval is), instead of down the sixth or seventh...

Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: BruceD] #1692281
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Let's put this into a harmonic context : Think of a dominant seventh or ninth* chord on G, with melody notes of A down to B, resolving to a tonic chord on C with the melody note of C. There must be dozens of songs that end with that sequence. Does that "ring any bells"?

*Thanks, Mark_C!

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Here is one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY3gZMQpFOs

Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: Ferdinand] #1692297
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Originally Posted by Ferdinand

Good one!

And it seems to me some old TV commercial jingle ended that way too.....can't come up with exactly what. I think it was either some laundry product or toilet paper. ha

(edit) I got it -- it was COFFEE. The final lyric was "So unbeatable....it's reheatable." smile

Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: pianoloverus] #1692301
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Tchaikovsky's almost unbearably sad song None But the Lonely Heart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngI4kPhbxc4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQKP6RWGme8


Good one! "None But the Lonely Heart" is perfect for remembering the interval.

But I didn't realize until reading this thread what a rare gesture it was to begin a piece (or a theme) with a desc. minor 7th.

Edited to say: lol, I didn't realize I was parroting Mark C's exclamation.

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Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: Orange Soda King] #1692319
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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
Originally Posted by Ferdinand
If you need to sing a minor 7th it may be easier to think down an octave and up a step, than to recall a melody.

This. Most definitely. In my choir, we call it the "Bass trick", hehe.


I've been a member of several choirs, and this idea is completely new to me. "Bass trick"???

One choir director made us sing solfege intervals to warm up. Minor 7th would be "Do to Re" (descending).


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Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: pianoloverus] #1692393
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Tchaikovsky's almost unbearably sad song None But the Lonely Heart:



Was that inspiration to "Owner of a Lonely Heart"? laugh

Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: Mark_C] #1692396
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Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by Ferdinand

Good one!

And it seems to me some old TV commercial jingle ended that way too.....can't come up with exactly what. I think it was either some laundry product or toilet paper. ha

(edit) I got it -- it was COFFEE. The final lyric was "So unbeatable....it's reheatable." smile


Hills Brothers coffee, I believe.

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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Tchaikovsky's almost unbearably sad song None But the Lonely Heart:



Was that inspiration to "Owner of a Lonely Heart"? laugh
Yes
Actually I never heard of that song or band until I googled it five minutes ago

Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: moscheles001] #1692483
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Originally Posted by moscheles001
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Originally Posted by Ferdinand
....And it seems to me some old TV commercial jingle ended that way too.....it was COFFEE. The final lyric was "So unbeatable....it's reheatable." smile

Hills Brothers coffee, I believe.

Bingo! smile
Not that I knew that -- I wasn't aware of ever having heard of Hills Bros. Coffee, it didn't even ring a bell. But I saw it when I looked this up to try to find video of the ad.

Re: Name a famous piece with a descending minor 7th interval [Re: MathTeacher] #1697056
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What about the bit in the 3rd movement of the Pathetique sonata, in the cadence before the second occurence of the triplet rhythm (C D an octave down Eb, with the chords Ab Bb and Eb, the same way the clip from the musical ends). There's also the rising minor seventh C Bb in the first section of the piece if that matters.

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