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You cannot develop skills for something you cannot reproduce. So if your DP is not able to reproduce specific subtle tone differences you can't develop the skills to reproduce them. It's that easy.

The Clavinova CLP-340 suffers from the same problem. This is such a ridiculous problem concerning the so-called high-end keyboard actions by Yamaha, I actually find the GHS and the GH far more playable than the GH3 and GH3+NW regardless what the advertising departments may say. It's a double win, actually, because keyboards with GH and GHS are far cheaper than those with GH3 and GH3+NW

I give up, after the last comment by Mucci, thats it from me, you think what you want.

- hint - hint - hint -

You could reply:

Most of todays affordable DPs have enough capabilities to reproduce most if not all required skills for a beginner to intermediate player. So if you have budget constraints you could be able to maker considerable progress in learning playing the piano. There is no need to have a N3 to learn playing the piano.

And I would then reply: You're absolutely right!

Most of todays affordable DPs have enough capabilities to reproduce most if not all required skills for a beginner to Expert player. So if you have budget constraints you could be able to make considerable progress in learning playing the piano. There is no need to have a N3 to learn playing the piano, or to play at an advanced level.

Are you serious?!

I've GH3 and there's no way to compare with GH or GHS regarding expressiveness or fast notes repeating

I've tried several CLP-340s and all of them showed the same keyboard action insufficiency, so yes, I am absolutely serious. I'll also be far happier if in the future you find more polite ways to react to my opinion.

Moomintroll,

GH3 is technically superior to GH/GHS. However, if you prefer to play the latter, that's absolutely fine - each to their own, etc.

Cheers,
James
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I, too, find that to be odd. The GH3 is mechanically identical to the GH.

If you feel a difference (GH vs. GH3), then perhaps it's related to sample variation?

I've noticed differences between the "same" GH3 keyboard on a CLP330 and that on a CLP240. Both were new pianos (three years ago).

You're... oh wait...

You almost got me!

I think the GHS had amazing fast repetition of same keys compared to the GH3. dont know if anyone else found this.

Ok, I give up!

I can't understand why Yammy spends money in developping new keybeds, adding 3rd sensors and so on.... if people don't realize any differences with older models.

the repetition of a key is a tricky one though, you have to remember that GH3 was marketed as an 'enhanced' repetition and smoother repetition of notes that blend better or whatever. At no point, I am pretty sure of this, did they mention you could strike the key quicker many times to achieve more notes per second on the same key, they just marketed it so you thought that was included in the GH3.

The 3rd sensor allows the player to re-press the key before it comes back completely, as a real piano does.

no thats incorrect, the third sensor is a sensor and only allows you to play/hear the notes smoother in repetition, its only a sensor and not an actual mechanism to allow faster reptetition of the same key. The key repetition on GH3 is rubbish, you should try the PHAIII I have on my Roland HP307 - far better!

Sorry but you're talking rubbish. I'm not a fan of Yamaha, but it's exactly as stated before: The third sensor is about halfway down the full keypress. So the sensor can detect when the key has moved up about halfway. It doesn't stop playing the note then, but if you repress the key, it plays a new note. Without that sensor this wouldn't happen...

Understood?

no, the GH3 keyboard lets you play the same note repeatedly with perfect articulation, they claim, they dont say this third sensor helps you play same notes faster, dont you understand what a sensor is? do you understand that a sensor detects your playing, does not mean it changes the whole mechanism of the keyboard when you suddenly decide to play the same key more rapidy, its a senor not a device.

mwf: D'oh! Are you trying to become our new Gyro?

GH3 Keyboard

Thanks James Q, that illustrates it perfectly. I hope mwf now understands and stops being ignorant.