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I am trying to give my piano teacher a surprise this weekend by playing this song with my daughter for her. I thought this is easy but then I got confused. http://www.music-for-music-teachers.com/free-printable-music-sheets.htmlCan you see the two sheets of Amazing grace there?(If not, it is under beginner piano -> then "Middle C" music, then Amazing Grace. I guess the first sheet is middle C position. Then I am totally lost of the secondo part. Could someone tell me where to put my fingers? What I mean is comparing to Middle C position, where should be the second be played. Any help is appreciated.
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Welcome to the forum, magicbug.  I have to say I'm not crazy about that duet arrangement. To have the first part in 6/4 but the secondo part in 3/4 seems like a recipe for disaster.  The secondo part is also confusing in part because both staffs are in bass clef, rather than the traditional treble/bass clef alignment. So, if you're playing the secondo part, your left hand would be playing the C below middle C. Your right hand would be playing the upper bass clef, and I would probably play the g with my thumb and middle C with my second finger. Good luck. The different time signatures would be enough for me to stay away from that arrangement, though...
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p.s. Looking at it further, it also seems pretty obvious that you would need to have this be a duet with two pianos; it really wouldn't work as a single piano, four hands kind of duet, as there's too much overlap in the keys being used. I don't know if that makes a difference to you...
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thanks a lot! so the person who play the first part will play 8va higher than middle C?
yeah I agree this is not so well arranged but this is the only duet peice i can find online that is suitable for me and my daughe -- both only played a few months.
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oh just saw your second post, then this is totally not gonna work for me. too bad! i was hoping i can play on one piano.
again thanks so much for your help!
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Yes, I suppose that would be the way to make it work on a single piano. What a nice surprise to dream up for your teacher.  Hope it works out well for you. I like to play duets with my daughter (she plays flute), and it's always an interesting dynamic, typically consisting of her flouncing away in disgust after telling me to practice my part more. 
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...oops, we cross-posted. You can make it work if you adopt your idea of shifting the first part up an octave. Try it out and see how it sounds.
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I guess the first sheet is middle C position. Then I am totally lost of the secondo part. Could someone tell me where to put my fingers? What I mean is comparing to Middle C position, where should be the second be played.
Any help is appreciated.
Notice that in the Secondo part you are now reading music that has the bass clef on it. Thus the first note (on the top part)is a G. In relation to Middle C that is the 3rd white note to the left of middle C. And in actuality the very next note after that first one is middle C. So yea, kind of hard to play on the same piano as mentioned, but yes you can try just trying it on a different octave to see how that sounds and to give yourself room for the two of you.
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thanks for all the kind advice! i will give it a try!
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Another possibility is that the primo part is probably played an octave higher than what is indicated on the score. I see that a lot in my son's piano books where if a piece is to be played as a duet say with the teacher – the students part (primo) is typically played an octave higher and the teacher's part (Segundo) is played as written. The Segundo portion is pretty much written in the bass clef for both staffs.
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Thank you musictuary! I love your ID (my profession name end with "ctuary")
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Thank you musictuary! I love your ID (my profession name end with "ctuary") Hmmm...I wonder what that profession could be?  Hope the surprise went well.
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