Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
What's Hot!!
Hurricane Irma & Our Piano Friends!
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(ad)
Virtual Sheet Music
Download Sheet Music Instantly
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Sheet Music...
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2017
(ad)
4th Finger Enigma Resolved!
Schumann's 4th Finger Enigma Resolved!
Who's Online Now
71 registered members (ando, Beemer, Bambers, Amirhsol, ArtlessArt, 18 invisible), 1,757 guests, and 2 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#1679852 - 05/18/11 05:21 AM Kawai US6X vs Kawai US50 vs.Yamaha U3. HELP PLEASE!  
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 11
ppyoung Offline
Junior Member
ppyoung  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 11
I'm looking for a piano for my 13 year old son who is learning to play piano (he's taking RCM grade 8 this summer). I came across a Kawai US6X, 11 years old, asking for CAD$4600. Another Kawai US50, 30 years old, asking for $3000 obo. A Yamaha U3, 25 years old, gray market, asking for $3200. My son thinks the Yamaha sounds very bright. We will go look at the Kawai this weekend. Is Kawai US6X a good piano in general? Apparently this particular one costs $1400 more. Any advice?

Last edited by ppyoung; 05/18/11 05:38 AM.
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1679873 - 05/18/11 06:35 AM Re: Kawai US6X vs Kawai US50 vs.Yamaha U3. HELP PLEASE! [Re: ppyoung]  
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 4,346
pianobroker Offline
4000 Post Club Member
pianobroker  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2007
Posts: 4,346
North Hollywood CA.
The US6X is a fine piano, much newer than the US50 though they look the same as for it's case design. The US6X has the neotex keytops and agraffes in the bass and would be an upgrade over the older US50. Whether it is worth $1600 more is a good question contingent on it's condition.

A 25 year old gray market U3A can be a nice piano again contingent on it's condition. Some people prefer Yamaha over Kawai or vice versa in that they sound different and their action feel are completely different. wink


www.pastperfectpiano.com
Largest selection in the USA
100+Steinway and M&H grands
Warehouse showroom Onsite Restoration
Preowned & Restored
Hailun dlr.818-255-3145
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z8RvhXGKzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voo0zumHGgE
#1679922 - 05/18/11 08:17 AM Re: Kawai US6X vs Kawai US50 vs.Yamaha U3. HELP PLEASE! [Re: ppyoung]  
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,175
ando Online content
5000 Post Club Member
ando  Online Content
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,175
Melbourne, Australia
I got a 40 year old gray market yamaha U3 and I'm very pleased with it.

#1679978 - 05/18/11 09:45 AM Re: Kawai US6X vs Kawai US50 vs.Yamaha U3. HELP PLEASE! [Re: ppyoung]  
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,676
PassingBy Offline
1000 Post Club Member
PassingBy  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,676
Go for the newer one. If it's newer, generally it is a better piano than it's predecessors. Out of these pianos, I've only played the Yamaha U3, so to an extent I'm not really qualified to give information about things I don't know...

However, as I play on U3's regularly at school, i can tell you they get very bright quite quickly (one was unbearable for me to listen to). But there are ones that are not so quite heavily played, and are more bearable to listen to.

(ad ) MusicNotes.com
sheet music search
#1680670 - 05/19/11 06:58 AM Re: Kawai US6X vs Kawai US50 vs.Yamaha U3. HELP PLEASE! [Re: PassingBy]  
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 11
ppyoung Offline
Junior Member
ppyoung  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 11
Thanks for the advice. I will definitely look into the newer Kawai.

#1680769 - 05/19/11 10:21 AM Re: Kawai US6X vs Kawai US50 vs.Yamaha U3. HELP PLEASE! [Re: ppyoung]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,439
turandot Offline
7000 Post Club Member
turandot  Offline
7000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,439
torrance, CA
Originally Posted by ppyoung
I'm looking for a piano for my 13 year old son who is learning to play piano (he's taking RCM grade 8 this summer). I came across a Kawai US6X, 11 years old, asking for CAD$4600. Another Kawai US50, 30 years old, asking for $3000 obo. A Yamaha U3, 25 years old, gray market, asking for $3200. My son thinks the Yamaha sounds very bright. We will go look at the Kawai this weekend. Is Kawai US6X a good piano in general? Apparently this particular one costs $1400 more. Any advice?


The US6X was in its time one of Kawai's top of the line models. If it's reasonably close to new condition (which may well be the case after 11 years of recreational use) it should sound much darker and less percussive than the old U3. I wouldn't say that's better. It's really a question of taste, the point being that your son finds the old U3 'bright'.

I'd definitely look it over and have your son focus on the mid-range and the treble tone since that piano will almost certainly shine in the bass. If he finds the action easy to manipulate and compliant to his touch and likes the tone in all key ranges, then get it inspected. Verify the age too with the Kawai serial number chart. Eleven years old would make it 2000 manufacture. I thought the production run on these pianos was over in the mid-nineties, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

The asking price would not be outlandish in the US, so I guess it's fair market or better in Canada. Whatever you can find out about its history of use is to your advantage, as is price negotiation.

The most important thing is to have your son spend some time with it before committing.


Will Johnny Come Marching Home?
The fate of the modern wartime soldier
#1682445 - 05/22/11 05:31 AM Re: Kawai US6X vs Kawai US50 vs.Yamaha U3. HELP PLEASE! [Re: turandot]  
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 11
ppyoung Offline
Junior Member
ppyoung  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 11
HI Turandot
Thanks for the advice, we will definitely look at the things you suggested when we go tomorrow. I did ask for the serial number and check the age of the piano on Kawai website, it turned out to be 20 years old not 11 years as the seller claimed. The seller is not the original owner, she bought it from another person who shipped the piano from Asia some time ago. Anyway, if the piano looks fine and my son likes it then we will hire a technician to inspect the piano for us. THANKS!

#1682491 - 05/22/11 09:51 AM Re: Kawai US6X vs Kawai US50 vs.Yamaha U3. HELP PLEASE! [Re: ppyoung]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,439
turandot Offline
7000 Post Club Member
turandot  Offline
7000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,439
torrance, CA
Originally Posted by ppyoung
I did ask for the serial number and check the age of the piano on Kawai website, it turned out to be 20 years old not 11 years as the seller claimed. The seller is not the original owner, she bought it from another person who shipped the piano from Asia some time ago. Anyway, if the piano looks fine and my son likes it then we will hire a technician to inspect the piano for us. THANKS!


ppyoung,

When the reported age is off by two or three years, it's often just a question of the manufacturer's born date being earlier than the original date of sale. When it's off by nine years, someone is supplying misinformation. It's possible that the seller in this case was hoodwinked and didn't know the true age. This often happens with grey-market sales. It's possible that the seller knew the true age, but didn't want to reveal it. In either case you now have a strong basis for serious price negotiation if your son likes the piano and it checks out technically.

Take your time on this. Mae sure that the piano is satisfactory in every way.


Will Johnny Come Marching Home?
The fate of the modern wartime soldier
#1684288 - 05/25/11 11:30 AM Re: Kawai US6X vs Kawai US50 vs.Yamaha U3. HELP PLEASE! [Re: ppyoung]  
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 12
Yeek Offline
Junior Member
Yeek  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 12
GTA, Ontario, CA
The KAWAI US6X should be a good buy if it's only 11 years (made in 2000 or later 1999).

A local dealer in toronto is asking for same price $4600 for a 22 year old KAWAI US 63H, which I believe is on par with the US6x in term of size and sound quality.


Moderated by  Ken Knapp, Piano World 

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World)
our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, Digital Piano Dolly, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping* on Jansen Artist Piano Benches, Cocoweb Piano Lamps, Hidrau Hydraulic Piano Benches
(*free shipping within contiguous U.S. only)
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq 6 Out now
(ad)
Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restorations and sales
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


New Topics - Multiple Forums
Lonely Petrof Concert grand
by Beemer. 09/23/17 05:56 AM
Playing to a Click Track
by cmajornine. 09/23/17 03:40 AM
Getting a warmer tone on a piano??
by JDRPiano. 09/23/17 01:04 AM
Grand vs. upright
by BruceD. 09/23/17 12:03 AM
Baroque performance change in last 50 years
by RubberFingers. 09/22/17 10:10 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics181,989
Posts2,659,554
Members88,879
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Check It Out!
There's a lot more to Piano World than just the forums.
Click Here to
Explore The Rest of Piano World!!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0