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.....Who do we have here? Well that'll have to be our little secret.  But seriously folks....  ....I'm invariably impressed at the wisdom and judgment shown in the discussions here like this one. (OK, almost invariably.) 
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A proper relationship requires a lot of (undivided) attention per day, which I don't have unless I sacrifice my chess completely (which already makes me unhappy), and much of my piano time (the biggest sacrifice of all). Maybe you should try getting a pet. It will provide companionship without putting too many demands on your time. My dog sits patiently by my piano while I play, and then when I have a free half hour, he's very happy to stop what he's doing and go for a walk with me. And he hardly ever tries to interrupt my practice time by talking to me.
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I'm curious. Have you told this person they are one in 10,000?
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Why would anybody ask a bunch of musicians for relationship advice? No kidding! Are you kidding?  It was very reasonable, considering who we have here. I agree that the last people on earth I would ask for dating advise are musicians, and I'm not kidding. Who do we have here? I'm curious as to why you think that. Musicians belong to the more romantic group when it comes to love. And it's a musician's dilemma, asking to hear from a musician's perspective. So it's quite a good case.
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I'm curious. Have you told this person they are one in 10,000? I see where you're going with this, Linda, but in this particular case I'm not sure it would have the desired effect, as the 1 in 10,000 apparently refers strictly to her height.
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I'm sorry to intrude then. I couldn't read this whole topic. There is an inauthenticness to this thread and I can't tell if this forum has a lot of joke threads or not. If it was me..I would just stay with piano and I would expect someone to tell me they are in pursuit of me for my height. The Minchin youtube video sounds like Sting is singing background. Peace.
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We do have a some stupid/joke threads, but this isn't one.
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I'm curious. Have you told this person they are one in 10,000? I see where you're going with this, Linda, but in this particular case I'm not sure it would have the desired effect, as the 1 in 10,000 apparently refers strictly to her height. good grief, how tall is this girl... I see from MathTeacher's profile and email address that he is (presumably)6'4", and a girl would have to be 5'10" to be within half foot of his height... that's not a 1 in 10,000 rarity, is it? Unless he is attracted only to women who are *taller* than he is? (whew... I almost put "only" in front of "attracted"... boy am I glad I caught that!  ... sigh... oh never mind)
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.....(whew... I almost put "only" in front of "attracted"... boy am I glad I caught that!  ... sigh... oh never mind) Cefinow: Not more than maybe 1 in 10,000 puts the "only" in the right place. I guess that means you're 1 in 10,000! 
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with all do respect, but such small trifles such as height proportions are not holds a relationship together! But I can understand that a tall girl would be much more suitable for you, but don't be blinded by it too! Of course, if yours and hers personality both are weird and demented (hahhah, j/k) then at least you're both physically adept to one another 
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good grief, how tall is this girl... I see from MathTeacher's profile and email address that he is (presumably)6'4", and a girl would have to be 5'10" to be within half foot of his height... that's not a 1 in 10,000 rarity, is it? Unless he is attracted only to women who are *taller* than he is? (whew... I almost put "only" in front of "attracted"... boy am I glad I caught that!  ... sigh... oh never mind) Since I'm taking an applied statistics class, I felt in the mood to do a little number crunching  Using the values of 63.6 inches as the mean and 2.5 inches as the standard deviation for American female height, a 1 in 10,000 height comes in as 6 feet 1/2 inch. Of course, his 1/10,000 value may have been a guestimate... As another 6'4" man, I must support Math Teacher and say that a beautiful 5'6" woman is fantastic, but a 6' beautiful woman is utterly spectacular. There's something psychologically exciting about being a man who is usually the tallest in a room who is confronted with a beautiful woman close to your own height. Maybe it's some sort of implied competition for dominance? That being said, my girlfriend is a beautiful 5'7", and has many other rare traits that I deemed more important than holding out for that 1/10,000 height along with the other great traits. You gotta play the odds rather than waiting for your absolute ideal  Math Teacher, we really are interested in hearing how things have progressed!
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good grief, how tall is this girl... I see from MathTeacher's profile and email address that he is (presumably)6'4", and a girl would have to be 5'10" to be within half foot of his height... that's not a 1 in 10,000 rarity, is it? Unless he is attracted only to women who are *taller* than he is? (whew... I almost put "only" in front of "attracted"... boy am I glad I caught that!  ... sigh... oh never mind) Since I'm taking an applied statistics class, I felt in the mood to do a little number crunching  Using the values of 63.6 inches as the mean and 2.5 inches as the standard deviation for American female height, a 1 in 10,000 height comes in as 6 feet 1/2 inch. Of course, his 1/10,000 value may have been a guestimate... As another 6'4" man, I must support Math Teacher and say that a beautiful 5'6" woman is fantastic, but a 6' beautiful woman is utterly spectacular. There's something psychologically exciting about being a man who is usually the tallest in a room who is confronted with a beautiful woman close to your own height. Maybe it's some sort of implied competition for dominance? That being said, my girlfriend is a beautiful 5'7", and has many other rare traits that I deemed more important than holding out for that 1/10,000 height along with the other great traits. You gotta play the odds rather than waiting for your absolute ideal  Math Teacher, we really are interested in hearing how things have progressed! She is 6'2". As some sanity has seem to poured back into this thread, I shall seek some more advice from you guys. I was wondering: do most of you automatically sit directly in front of the middle C key? I know where you sit depends on the piece you are playing, but is middle C your default position? It is mine, but sometimes I feel I should sit a key or two to the right of it (damn piano is not symmetric about middle C). Oh ... the lady friend... Well, we have been on several dates now, and I still do think a lot about piano during quiet moments and how many practice hours I have lost. Reflecting the the many advice given, I have tried to break that habit, but it still shows. She has asked me several times if anything was wrong. She explicitly stated that often my behaviour is inconsistent with the time that I first asked her out. I had to make up some excuse, but I cannot make excuses forever. I have to eventually tell her the truth, that I often think about piano over her (have you seen me do that before?). Or I try to put her first before my piano, in which case if successful the truth will change. So I'm still struggling with myself.
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Oh ... the lady friend... Well, we have been on several dates now, and I still do think a lot about piano during quiet moments and how many practice hours I have lost. Reflecting the the many advice given, I have tried to break that habit, but it still shows. She has asked me several times if anything was wrong. She explicitly stated that often my behaviour is inconsistent with the time that I first asked her out. I had to make up some excuse, but I cannot make excuses forever. I have to eventually tell her the truth, that I often think about piano over her (have you seen me do that before?). Or I try to put her first before my piano, in which case if successful the truth will change. So I'm still struggling with myself.
As interesting as I find this, an Internet forum may not really be the best place to find help. You seem to have some level of acceptance that there's some OCD going on here, and it's to the point that it's effecting the rest of your life. If you can't enjoy the company of a woman that you like because of a fear of your skills eroding, it may be a problem. If you really want help resolving this, your best bet is probably to go talk to someone who's job it is to help people sort things like this out.
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....As some sanity has seem to poured back into this thread, I shall seek some more advice from you guys. I was wondering: do most of you automatically sit directly in front of the middle C key? I know where you sit depends on the piece you are playing, but is middle C your default position? It is mine, but sometimes I feel I should sit a key or two to the right of it (damn piano is not symmetric about middle C)..... Hey, whaddaya doin', hijacking your own thread?  But since you asked..... I don't sit anywhere near there. The exact position depends on the piece, as you said, but very little. My default position is at the F above middle C. Sometimes it's half a key to the left of there. And that's about it.  OK, who else.....(I've never wondered about this before, or asked, and I have no idea what other people do)
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I sit in between the E and the F above middle C, since that is exactly the middle of the piano. My previous teacher taught me to sit there at our first lesson together and I've been sitting there ever since.
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I sit in between the E and the F above middle C, since that is exactly the middle of the piano. My previous teacher taught me to sit there at our first lesson together and I've been sitting there ever since. Huh.....basically what I said too. I never realized it was "exactly the middle of the piano," nor that it might be considered the advisable thing. I think I'm glad.  I wonder if anyone ever advised me to do this.....I don't think they did.
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Wow, my keyboard measures 48.25" and 24.125" is, as you say, between the E and F!
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I'm a middle C man. Nobody ever talks about middle F or middle E and a half... 
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I'm a middle C man. Nobody ever talks about middle F or middle E and a half... Yes, but on a modern piano "middle C" is not in the middle, exactly, is it?
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Well, it is the middle(most) Cl; hence "Middle C" as opposed to "Highest C" or "Lowest C". I don't recall anyone referring to it as "the point intersecting the exact middle of the piano ambitus at C."
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