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#1660227 - 04/14/11 06:34 PM Yamaha U1, Charles Walters 1500 or new Henry F Miller HMV047  
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Hello
I have been looking around for a couple of months now and have read numerous posts on this forum. Posted previously about a couple of U3's that I was looking at. Lots of good information - Thanks.

I have found that I like the brighter/clear sound of a piano and have been focusing on older Yamaha U3's and U1's which seem to "naturally" (I know it is a voicing thing) have that sound and which fall into what my budget will allow. I also recently played a new Henry F. Miller HMV047. I was impressed with the richness of the sound. I know that it is "entry level" piano and is made in the Pearl River plant in China which to me makes it seem more unique given the sound that comes out of these pianos. I played several of them and they all sounded relatively the same - rich, full bass, clear mid and upper ranges.

So, my current list is a reconditioned mid-70's U1 with reshaped hammers, new felts, adjusted regulation and some cosmetic things done to the case for around $3000 from a dealer with warranty, but I am not convinced that is necessarily a good buy although the piano sounds good.

I can get the new Henry Miller HMV047 for around $4000.

I am also thinking about checking out a 10 year old Charles Walters 1500. Private sale asking $4000. I know there are a lot of people in this forum that like the Walters. I haven't played it yet so not sure of the sound and it is a bit of a road trip to get to.

Aside from the price question about whether these piano's are worth the money, has anyone played much on the Henry Miller or have anything more to say regarding them? Not much about them here so far on the site.

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#1660341 - 04/14/11 10:48 PM Re: Yamaha U1, Charles Walters 1500 or new Henry F Miller HMV047 [Re: madcp]  
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I also recently played a new Henry F. Miller HMV047. I was impressed with the richness of the sound. I know that it is "entry level" piano and is made in the Pearl River plant in China which to me makes it seem more unique given the sound that comes out of these pianos.


Could somebody please explain to me how a piano with "rich sound" can be called "entry level" ? The basis of....?

Or how Henry Miller can be rated below Pearl River when in fact its made by same company?

Just asking...

Norbert confused

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#1660347 - 04/14/11 10:54 PM Re: Yamaha U1, Charles Walters 1500 or new Henry F Miller HMV047 [Re: Norbert]  
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Originally Posted by Norbert
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I also recently played a new Henry F. Miller HMV047. I was impressed with the richness of the sound. I know that it is "entry level" piano and is made in the Pearl River plant in China which to me makes it seem more unique given the sound that comes out of these pianos.


Could somebody please explain to me how a piano with "rich sound" can be called "entry level" ? The basis of....?

Or how Henry Miller can be rated below Pearl River when in fact its made by same company?

Just asking...

Norbert confused


Rated?

By who?


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#1660603 - 04/15/11 11:22 AM Re: Yamaha U1, Charles Walters 1500 or new Henry F Miller HMV047 [Re: Nick Mauel]  
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Norbert: Not sure if you are questioning my description of the rich sound or my calling it an entry level piano. Can't do much about the richness description as it is hard to describe sound. As to the entry level designation - that is based on others comments in this forum about the 047 as well as the Fines' piano buyer guide which drops Henry F. Miller's in the entry level category. Pearl River makes it to the Mid-range category. Some of the other pianos made in the same plant are rated higher - ie Ritmuller.

Anyway, to answer Nick's question I would guess the rating is out of the piano buyer guide - but not sure.

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#1660646 - 04/15/11 12:27 PM Re: Yamaha U1, Charles Walters 1500 or new Henry F Miller HMV047 [Re: madcp]  
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madcp, I believe Norbert and Nick are just posing rhetorical questions and are happy to read your review. Norbert as we all know, er, comments positively, somewhat regularly, about Chinese brands. More like a lot. Sometimes less subtle than usual.

I don't think anyone is actually surprised by what you found. The Fine ratings aren't everything to everyone.

Check out the CW and as many pianos as you can before you make that final decision. It could still be the Miller. The piano I bought was one of the ones I tried on the first day of shopping...

#1660703 - 04/15/11 02:05 PM Re: Yamaha U1, Charles Walters 1500 or new Henry F Miller HMV047 [Re: madcp]  
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Aside from the price question about whether these piano's are worth the money, has anyone played much on the Henry Miller or have anything more to say regarding them? Not much about them here so far on the site.


Do you like the piano?
If your answer is yes then; it is worth the money.

Why even bother with a 40 years old U1 Yamaha that costs about 65% of the price of a new one?


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#1661462 - 04/16/11 07:28 PM Re: Yamaha U1, Charles Walters 1500 or new Henry F Miller HMV047 [Re: madcp]  
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I'd make that road trip to check out the Charles Walter....


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