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#1647363 - 03/24/11 06:29 PM Ten thumbs  
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Hi
I have just bought an old piano. It will need tuning and some tlc but I have time and confidence that I will be able to make a piano good enough to give me that great feeling of "wow this really sounds great!!!" crazy poor neighbours haha.
My problem is that my fingers are to fat to get between the black keys cleanly, so I will never get fast and good together I guess?
Any advise on that from any one, thanks

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#1647371 - 03/24/11 06:55 PM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: scandielad]  
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That's what I thought at first but after time and practice my fingers now fit fine naturally between the black keys. It just happened without my noticing it. I think your hand will find a way to position itself to fit your fingers between the keys.


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#1647387 - 03/24/11 07:25 PM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: scandielad]  
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Try this very slowly. Does your biggest finger rub the two black keys just barely or do all three keys depress (black, white, black)? If the former, you might want to try a little bit of talcom powder. Of course, the tight fit will demand you hit the white key with great precision, as to not rub against either of the two black keys hard enough as to depress them.

If the latter, you'll probably have to adjust your playing style so that the fat fingers in question are curved, as to hit the white key toward the outer edge of the black keys.

"([Rudolph] Serkin's daughter has said that her father practiced scales for nine hours before a concert, with only one hour devoted to his repertoire. That was because his fingers were so wide that they got stuck between the black keys. His long, systematic practicing of scales assured that each finger would place itself in front of the black keys.)"
Source: http://pianoeducation.org/pnotecha.html

This is a bit extreme, but, if none of the above work...

You could explore the possibility of having a tech remove all the black keys and taking them to a carpenter to have them shaved down. I have no idea if that would be a good idea or not, but 'somehow' you need to widen that space.

Or of course, the obvious (and forgive me for saying so) -- lose about 50 pounds. smile (just teasting)

Okay, I'm fresh out of ideas. Hope one of them work for you.

P.S. - Welcome to PW, scandielad.

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#1647388 - 03/24/11 07:27 PM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: scandielad]  
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Try these!

I've actually heard of this helping. Just don't over-do it!

But the more you play, the more you limber up and discover different approaches.

Last edited by ll; 03/24/11 07:28 PM.

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#1647421 - 03/24/11 08:27 PM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: scandielad]  
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congrats on the new "old" piano.

Don't worry about it ! You don't have to play that "deep" and you can locate your fingers a little closer to the edge and therefore it shouldn't be a problem at all ! its just a matter of finding the right location on the keyboard. Check some youtubes to see where normally pianists locate their fingers on the keys.

Good luck



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#1647492 - 03/24/11 10:30 PM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: scandielad]  
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Art Tatum had some pretty fat fingers. He made out OK. I'm confident that you'll find a way.
Good luck and congratulations!


I'm getting there--note by note.
#1647614 - 03/25/11 04:53 AM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: scandielad]  
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I have fingers like pork sausages. There's absolutely no way that any part of them will ever fit between any part of any black notes. Ever. Compared to all the other deficiencies I have to work around to play the piano, I see this as a relatively minor one.

The biggest problem caused by my fat fingers was well-meaning friends and teachers telling me that if I practiced hard enough, somehow a miracle would happen and my fingers would get thinner. They didn't, but I wore grooves in the black notes trying. Learning to work around the problem with different fingering would have been a better solution from the start.

#1647667 - 03/25/11 08:21 AM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: scandielad]  
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huh?

Oops, for a moment there I thought someone had started a thread about me. Perhaps about my bad language, disrespectful attitude, or atrocious playing.

Thankfully, all that is going on is that someone's worried about their physical attributes. Join the club! laugh

#1648714 - 03/27/11 02:51 AM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: ten left thumbs]  
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Thanks for all the advise. I will try them out and I will not despair regardless how (un)successfully I will progress, The important thing for me is the fantastic feeling of "WOW, this sounds really great!!" (I might be the only one who hear it that way crazy ).

Damn, cant wait till Tuesday! laugh

#1648821 - 03/27/11 10:24 AM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: ten left thumbs]  
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Originally Posted by ten left thumbs
huh?

Oops, for a moment there I thought someone had started a thread about me. Perhaps about my bad language, disrespectful attitude, or atrocious playing.


How about for your renown as a concert triangle-player? laugh


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#1648827 - 03/27/11 10:32 AM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: joyoussong]  
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Originally Posted by joyoussong
Originally Posted by ten left thumbs
huh?

Oops, for a moment there I thought someone had started a thread about me. Perhaps about my bad language, disrespectful attitude, or atrocious playing.


How about for your renown as a concert triangle-player? laugh


Indeed. smile

But perhaps I should tell the story of how I came by the name 'ten left thumbs'?

When I first registered for this forum, I wanted 'ten thumbs' but alas, that was already taken. So I thought, OK what's worse?

I'm also happy to say, I've been making excellent progress within the triangling world. Never have ting-a-ling's been so tingly!

#1658350 - 04/11/11 04:28 PM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: ten left thumbs]  
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So, I got it delivered, on the footpath!
Had to take it apart, metal frame and all.
have it back together now, strings in tune and ready to go yippie

#1658726 - 04/12/11 02:19 AM Re: Ten thumbs [Re: scandielad]  
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Originally Posted by scandielad
So, I got it delivered, on the footpath!
Had to take it apart, metal frame and all.
have it back together now, strings in tune and ready to go yippie


You had to take it apart!!! oh my! That must have been frustrating.

But now your new-for-you piano is in a happy new home! Have fun playing!


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