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#1645060 - 03/21/11 04:39 AM Reasonable price for Roland HP-237  
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I have considered buying a "second piano" for our vacation home. I have narrowed my search into Yamaha Clavinovas and Roland. Upon searching the net I found a Roland HP-237 from 2000 or 2001 that seems to be in good condition. What would be a reasonable price for such ten-year old digital piano?

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#1645242 - 03/21/11 12:25 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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Have them pay you $50 for hauling it away.

#1645254 - 03/21/11 12:45 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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Originally Posted by Right hand chords
I have considered buying a "second piano" for our vacation home. I have narrowed my search into Yamaha Clavinovas and Roland. Upon searching the net I found a Roland HP-237 from 2000 or 2001 that seems to be in good condition. What would be a reasonable price for such ten-year old digital piano?


The problem many times is that the 10 year old DP is worth very little. But the seller remembers paying thousands for it and bases his asking price on some fraction of what he paid back in 2001. But you as a buyer know that today's $500 entry level piano might be better so you would want to offer less than that. The trouble is that the seller has been out of the market for 10+ years and does not know prices for comparable new pianos have fallen so much.

Offer $250 or $350 but be prepared to have the seller think it is worth $1,200. This is one reason so many people buy new DPs

#1645275 - 03/21/11 01:29 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: ChrisA]  
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The seller in deed thinks it's worth close to what you mentioned - although a nice looking Roland leather bench, earphones and some sheet music is included in price. I do not think there is any way I could get them all for a little as $250 or $350.

Ok, if the asking price for this used DP unrealistic the problem is that new Rolands are way more expensive (at least here in Europe). New Roland RP-201 which I understand to be an entry level DP sells for €1200 (ca. $1700). Are you saying new RP-201 is worth much more that used HP-237? I though HP-237 in its time was at least mid range...

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#1645293 - 03/21/11 01:52 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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Key words: in its time. How much would you pay someone for their used 11 year old laptop?

#1645342 - 03/21/11 03:55 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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For any price higher than 400$ you'll do better buying a new DP than the 237.

#1645494 - 03/21/11 08:26 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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A used anything that has to do with technology is worth nothing.

It's like a computer. When I build I new one I don't go for the high end amazing graphics card/cpu/mobo. Why? Because I can guarantee without a doubt in my mind that technology will bypass the most up to date amazing piece of chip in probably a year, sometimes less.

Same goes for dp's. We see it in key touch, processors, sounds, layering, the works. Always something newer grander, and probably more expensive around the corner. (Though i've heard that yama's 400 line doesn't feel that good higher up from this review in that Arizona blog.)

#1645539 - 03/21/11 10:08 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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Originally Posted by Right hand chords
Upon searching the net I found a Roland HP-237 from 2000 or 2001 that seems to be in good condition. What would be a reasonable price for such ten-year old digital piano?
Today the cheapest consoles sell at close to $1000. They'll be a bit better than the 10-year-old you're considering, but not much.

How much is the seller asking for the HP-237?

#1645629 - 03/22/11 02:54 AM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: MacMacMac]  
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Basicly what you all are saying is this: for 5+ year old dp:s the make and model is meaningless, any new entry level console is better? What if I found a 2-3 year old Clavinova for, say 70% of the price of a new one? Would that be a better purchase?

I only know acoustic pianos and therefore ask these simple questions... Thanks for your input.

#1646115 - 03/22/11 07:46 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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I don't think make/model are meaningless. There are plenty of junk brands out there.
(If you stick with the major vendors, you'll avoid trouble.)

Be careful with the "percent off" thinking.
When you asked about 70% of the price of a new one ... that would be 70% of WHAT?

There's no fixed price on a high-end piano. The selling price is usually negotiated.
They often sell, brand new for 70% of the (crazy) LIST PRICE.
I got mine at 64% of list price.

So please don't buy a 2-3 year old for 70% of the original list.
I think 50% of original list is tops.
Some folks here might suggest even less.

#1648726 - 03/27/11 03:04 AM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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I ended up paying €500 ($700) for this used HP-237. Local music store offered me a new HP-302 for €1650 but I just couldn't justify myself the 1150 price difference. I honestly could not find that much of a difference between the used HP-237 and the new 302 in terms of sound or the feel of the keyboard.

However the more expensive HP-305 is a completely different story... the Ivory feel keyboard was superior to the plastic keyboard of the cheaper models. 305 was simply marvelous. Unfortunately the ca. €2000 at this point was simply way more than I was willing to spend.

Regarding Yamaha, after test playing a few Clavinovas I ruled them out completely. There would have been many used and new Clavinovas in the local market but somehow I prefer the more acoustic piano-like feel and look of the Rolands to all the buttons, digi displays etc of the Yamahas. Also I prefer the darker sound the Rolands have over the brighter tone of Yamahas. Just my personal, very subjective view.


#2562270 - 08/10/16 06:12 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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Hello Right hand chords,
how are your HP 237 going these years? I'm looking for a 2nd hand digital piano as well, met one with selling price $400, and not sure does it worth for 16 year old digital piano...

Thanks!

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Woody: Notice that the post you replied to is five years old (March 2011).

The poster, Right Hand Chords, has not written any posts since then. He's long gone.
So it's certain you won't get a reply.

#2562276 - 08/10/16 06:53 PM Re: Reasonable price for Roland HP-237 [Re: Right hand chords]  
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Woody,

for $400 you may be able to buy a new Digital Piano that compares favorably to the 16 year old model you met.

Good luck,

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