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I would like to suggest that the auto-sensor automatically convert every mention of crescendo or decrescendo to "hairpin," because that's usually what people are actually talking about, and I think it's "dirty" to call them crescendos and decrescendos. 
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Yeah, and if it could automatically determine when a song is not a song, that would be heck good 
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The owner of a web site can run it anyway s/he likes. True enough. But the owner of this site gives the option to send a private message. It is the site that uses this formulation. To then intervene in private messages in any way is kind of pathetic.
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PW just gets better and better every day. 1+
Slow down and do it right. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.pianoworld.com/forumpicts/MOYD12/MOYD_789012.gif)
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May we ask, what precipitated this recent change? Was there some problem? I'm actually even more concerned about this automatic censorship of the forums than of PM's (maybe because I don't PM). And I hadn't noticed any problem with obscenities or anything like that on the forums.....I do notice occasionally that posts get edited by moderators for obscenity, but from what I ever saw, that seemed quite rare. Let me give a professional opinion, which I don't think I've ever done before on here. It looks to me like the site is going slightly insane.
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The owner of a web site can run it anyway s/he likes. What's the problem with that? It's not a cooperative venture. While it is obvious that the owner of a site can run it however they want, you are wrong about the cooperative aspect, because this site would be nothing without all the users. It definitely is a cooperative venture, even if the control mechanisms do not reside with the users. In case you haven't noticed, it is the users that are creating the content, not the site owner.
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Kind of ruined now though. I only ever noticed a few questionable words from any forum member. Synonyms of urinate, defecate, and fornicate, mostly. So shut the fornicating up you urinating defecator. 
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lol i never receive PMs so i never get to experience this haha
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Not a very effective censor, I might add. Of George Carlin's seven dirty words, it bleeps only three of them.
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May we ask, what precipitated this recent change? Was there some problem? Let me give a professional opinion, which I don't think I've ever done before on here. It looks to me like the site is going slightly insane. The change isn't that recent. It happened about a year ago when the software was updated I think. Overall, censoring has been a welcome addition. We try to make sure the site has a PG rating, and since it was implemented, it's greatly reduced having to fix people's posts manually. And the forums go predictably insane about once every year or so. It might interest you to know that it's fairly predictable, and the same things happen each time. New users mysteriously pop up, posts go quasi-viral with garbage, some people leave... The topics raised in this thread have also been raised before. PM privacy, the abilities of moderators, who the site really "belongs" to, etc...
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I just don ´t get how anyone can put "privacy" and "internet" in the same sentence. Or expect these two terms to be together. Please. I understand the banning of certain members may displease some , but come on.
Having said that, when changes such as these take place, maybe users should be informed. Although i don t see the big deal about swear words being erased. I swear way too much, and i definitely know it adds nothing good to my persona. Swearing is like smoking - we may enjoy it sometimes, but most times it s useless and plain SUCKS
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Personally, I don't have a problem with censorship on this forum.
It is, in fact, a refreshing change to know that I can recommend anyone, be it a student,(who may well be a minor), or friend, to this forum, in the knowledge that they will not be offended, by the content.
I applaud the owner for keeping it this way, and respect his views, when stopping by, his 'house'.
If I want to converse, and I use the term loosely, in an 'adult' manner, with anyone, I would step outside of this 'house' and do so in private. PM's are not (necessarily) private, on any forum, so feel free to curse away to your heart's content, via email, Facebook, telephone, or wherever.
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folks, this is the INTERWEB and you should assume anything you post anywhere (yes, that includes your private emails) can be read by others (sysadmins etc.), the exception being TLS & SSL encrypted services.
forewarned is forearmed.
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folks, this is the INTERWEB and you should assume anything you post anywhere (yes, that includes your private emails) can be read by others (sysadmins etc.), the exception being TLS & SSL encrypted services.
forewarned is forearmed.  It's a good idea to view all of your internet posts as your public face. You never know if a potential employer can access what you post. I always question the anonymity of the internet. You never know....
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folks, this is the INTERWEB and you should assume anything you post anywhere (yes, that includes your private emails) can be read by others (sysadmins etc.), the exception being TLS & SSL encrypted services.
forewarned is forearmed. It's a good idea to view all of your internet posts as your public face. You never know if a potential employer can access what you post. I always question the anonymity of the internet. You never know.... Right. I'm even careful about what I say in person, too!
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It's a good idea to view all of your internet posts as your public face. You never know if a potential employer can access what you post. I always question the anonymity of the internet. You never know.... I'm certainly under no allusions. I do not accept Facebook friend requests from anyone at, or associated with, my place of employment- and that applies to my former employer in London. And NEVER do I mention anything work related in a newsfeed. For all that, I certainly access Facebook at work (so does everyone else) along with PW of course. In fact, that's what I'm doing right now! Here's a question for someone perhaps more familiar with forum software: when you delete PMs, are they really gone or still sitting around someplace?
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Not 100% sure on that one, but if the recipient hasn't deleted it, also............
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Swearing is like smoking - we may enjoy it sometimes, but most times it s useless and plain SUCKS There's nothing like having a roll up and a cup of tea first thing in the morning! But after that it sort of loses its novelty.
All theory, dear friend, is grey, but the golden tree of life springs ever green.
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May we ask, what precipitated this recent change? Was there some problem? Let me give a professional opinion, which I don't think I've ever done before on here. It looks to me like the site is going slightly insane. The change isn't that recent. It happened about a year ago when the software was updated I think. Overall, censoring has been a welcome addition. We try to make sure the site has a PG rating, and since it was implemented, it's greatly reduced having to fix people's posts manually. And the forums go predictably insane about once every year or so. It might interest you to know that it's fairly predictable, and the same things happen each time. New users mysteriously pop up, posts go quasi-viral with garbage, some people leave... The topics raised in this thread have also been raised before. PM privacy, the abilities of moderators, who the site really "belongs" to, etc... Thanks for the clarification. As a long time government employee I learned to be very careful about what I said on the internet - including private e-mails. Anything you put out there can (and will) come back to haunt you !!
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....I think censoring words on PW is new now.... OK -- that explains a little surprise I had yesterday. I typed "heck" in a post yesterday but it came out as "heck." Nothing like that ever happened before. I mean, I'm pretty sure I said "heck" a few times in the past and it always came out before as "heck," just the way I typed it, but this time it came out as "heck." Edit: So.....they all came out as heck. Not that I didn't expect it.  P.S. If anyone doesn't know what was the word that I typed instead of "heck"......well, that's easy -- just look it up in the dictionary under.....aah, what the heck, if I type it again I'm sure it'll just come out again as "heck"..... In fact, now you never know if someone said "heck" or "heck." (Dam, 2 hecks again.) BTW: For what it's worth, IMHO it would have been good to announce the new automatic censor when it was put in. Not that much of a big deal, but it would have been a 'nice touch' rather than making us be taken by surprise. MarkC, thanks for the good laugh! That was a hilarious post!
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