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Diana Krall Transcriptions #1136244
01/14/09 10:31 AM
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I've spent 2 whole days on the internet, trying to find out which books are worth getting and which are not.

And... I still haven't got anywhere!

I'm looking for Diana Krall Sheet music which is very precise, and not just giving the melody of the singer with the right hand.

Luckilly I found your forum whilst searching!

I know "Girl in the other room" is very good, but it's the only one where I know none of the songs- typically!

I like the listings on "the best of", but can't find any examples of the sheets anywhere, and have only found 1 review (negative), which you can't really go by.

Can anyone guide me?

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Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions #1136245
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Try musicnotes.com and sheetmusicdirect.com.

I've found transcriptions that are pretty accurate on both those sites.


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Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions #1136246
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I watched a DVD of Diana the other evening and I do like her playing very much. She improvises well and shows a definitive style unique to her. I would be surprised if the was a written score, if that is what you mean? I will stand corrected if so.

Few artists that play jazz have ever used written score it is the opposite from the genre of improvisation.

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I watched a DVD of Diana the other evening and I do like her playing very much. She improvises well and shows a definitive style unique to her. I would be surprised if the was a written score, if that is what you mean? I will stand corrected if so.

Few artists that play jazz have ever used written score it is the opposite from the genre of improvisation.

swingal

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Swingal - algarve is looking for transcriptions. While the vast majority of jazz pianists don't work from written scores, there are transcribers who write down what jazz pianists do, note for note. The overriding concern, of course, is the quality of the transcription. I've seen plenty of examples where transcribers aren't really that accurate. And while there may be plenty of transcriptions of Diana Krall's work, the only real way to judge the quality of transcription is to buy a copy, or to ask around because someone else may have bought a copy.

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Exactly Guy!

I've not got anywhere asking either, so I've taken the plunge, and bought a couple. Just hope they're up to scratch!

Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions #1136250
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i love her version of Peel Me A Grape and looking for a MIDI file, but so far my search has been nill. A MIDI file and a transcription of this tune would be a plus. Any links?

Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions #1136251
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Well I don't know how a transcription could really include all that she does. The solos are really intricate for a starter.

I used my music notation software to read a midi of The Look Of Love. Then I listened to the original song many times. Transcribing this is just one of my ongoing projects. But one needs some device to pick up those solos and then one needs to listen again and again to the whole line. Interesting, better than any score book but it is not so easy and time consuming.


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Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions #1136252
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In the old days, one used a reel-to-reel tape recorder, and eventually special cassette recorders, to slow down recordings. Things are much easier now -- you can find fairly inexpensive software to grab a CD track, isolate a section and slow it down.

Arabesque -- you're right. This isn't a beginner thing...beginners might want to check out more accessible artists (Red Garland, or Hank Jones might be good examples) before tackling transcription. But, it does get easier with time.

But, here again, algarve was looking for a published book. The quality on those things vary dramatically. I'll give an example -- I had a conversation once with South African pianist Abdullah Ibrahim about notation software and other programs (his son is quite computer literate), because he wanted to start work on releasing a book of transcriptions. Many months later, a German publisher came out with such a book (I'm assuming it was Abdullah's project) and the actual transcription quality was spotty. Some stuff was fairly accurate, but (for example) the transcription of "The Wedding" wasn't anywhere near what Abdullah actually plays. There are also tunes that are completely misnamed. But, still, it is one of the few sources available, and there is usable material in it.

Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions #1136253
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I've got "The Best of Diana Krall" from Hal Leonard...it's got some nice chord changes and decent melody lines...some real nice voicings too. I'm working on "Peel Me A Grape" with a bass line in it...if I get a chance to record it, I'll post...


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Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions #1136254
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Try listening to Nat King Cole and maybe you will hear where Diana got most those tunes. Nat's style and approach she has mastered and basically just reproducing what she heard of course with her spin on the tunes.
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Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions [Re: algarve_piano] #1613777
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HI,
I discovered Diana Krall when a lady from vancouver Island invited me to view the Live in Monreal DVD.
As an aspiring pianist, I have been hunting also for sheet music.
My favourite so far is Maybe You'll be There which is transcribed in "DIANA KRALL COLLECTION VOLUME 2" WISE PUBLICATIONS
The pieces in this book i find are pretty authentic and certainly some of the most interesting accompaniment arrangements I have found. In fact it is almost a struggle to sing along as the melodies are not played in the piano part (I really like that).
Other songs in this book are Besame Mucho, and a great Fly Me to the Moon with lots of fiddly bits.
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Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions [Re: algarve_piano] #1613877
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I think it's almost impossible to ever find accurate "note for note" transcriptions especially with artists like Krall who also probably never play a tune the same each time she plays it. Probably the only way to do this is to, as others have mentioned, get some software or other recording device to slow it down and listen to it a hundred times.

Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions [Re: btcomm] #1621142
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Diana Krall usually plays with her quartet or trio, so even if there were an accurate transcription of what she played, it would make no sense out-of-context.. Since she works with a bass player Diana wouldn't be playing any bass notes so her jazz chords would all be extensions and used out of context could sound like completely different chords. Unless anyone was planning to get a band together or wanted to study jazz voicings it wouldn't make any sense to look for an exact transcription.

Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions [Re: algarve_piano] #1621262
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An exact transcription would imply that it was a solo arrangement for a tune and as Tea Girl said Krall plays with a quartet and sings the melody so her transcriptions wouldn't make much sense.

Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions [Re: algarve_piano] #1623967
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exact transcriptions makes no sense.

Re: Diana Krall Transcriptions [Re: algarve_piano] #1627798
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You say that exact transcriptions make no sense but to someone who is able to read music fluently; accurate transcriptions do go a long way to help the pianist to be able to play and if you intend to learn a piece for a singer to perform, they would be a very good starting point.
A lot of popular sheet music books are in my opinion awful because they are most boring and unauthentic. The only real books I enjoy playing from are the dian krall one i mentioned earlier and two pieces transcibed for me by a royal college music student who has the gift of transcribing what he hears; one of these pieces is a Dudley moore performance for larry norman which I am still having trouble playing properly.


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