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You say "Honkey Tonk2 is probably based on Studio Grand. Honkey Tonk 3 is probably based on Brilliant Grand", but... I have only access to ONE Honkey Tonk sound to play that is in the Concert grand serie. So... how comes I can edit 3 variations of Honkey Kong, but only play ONE ????

B. Michels, tried a factory reset?

That was a terrible review. Thanks for posting though. It was like watching Mr. Rogers give a technical lesson on digital piano sound production.

I agree. Really poor audio, and he's one of those people that uses swallowing as punctuation.

I did reset the 9 "ONE key" sounds. Is there a "complete" factory reset ?

You can play all three by selecting them in the SN piano tone edit screen. Granted only one of them is represented in the Live Set presets, but who really cares? The honky-tonk sound isn't one I'm all that interested in.

After listening to them, I'm convinced the three honky-tonk pianos are based on the three base pianos (Concert, Studio, Brilliant). It makes sense that they provided a honky-tonk and mono version of each piano as a basis for patch building.

It doesn't seem to be a simple chorus effect, it really sounds like detuned unison strings. I wish we had a control for this, a smaller amount might be fairly interesting to apply to other piano presets.

I wish there was a control in there to set the level of L&R pan from bass to treble notes without collapsing the stereo image.

Menu | Utility | Factory Reset All

After some experimentation I'd like to amend my statement above.

Everything, including pedal sympathetic resonance, is audible when the NX is played via MIDI (provided you edit the "Part Mode" to "16PART").

The only thing missing that I can tell is the pedal-down sound effect ("loom of strings"). If anyone has a clue as to how to get this to play via MIDI I'm all ears.

dewster, it sounds like you're doing a nice job of tweaking your NX for the DPBSD...or should that be tweaking the DPBSD for the NX? ;p

Cheers,
James
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Thanks Dewster

C'mon guys! You gotta love the way he plays with Wurly sound at 2:30

I know you're kidding James, but in case you're sort of kidding on the square I probably owe you and others an explanation. It's true that I'm "teaching to the test" to some degree since the NX is the only DP we have at the moment. But the tests are widely applicable, and if I run across some aspect that the NX fails I'd be sure to shout it from the rooftops.

After all, it's not that my wife or I are particularly in love with the NX - it certainly has some good things going for it, but it has some warts as well. The DPBSD test additions and changes are mainly due to the fact that I'm spending a fair amount of time with the NX and it's making me think of new things and ways to test. The NX is fairly sophisticated as these things go, so I'm able to make tests that reveal more in there than in many DPs.

I added a really loud E6 to the beginning of the pedal sympathetic resonance test. This lets me hear both pedal symp res (when the pedal is down) and the duplex scale resonance (when the pedal is up). I should have done this in the first rev of the DPBSD MIDI file as it is much easier to hear the effect that with the old test, and probably on most or all DPs, not just the NX. I've gone round and round with this test for the duration of the project, trying to make the effect more audible.

I added the late pedal partial damping test because I didn't feel the quick partial damping test was player-centric enough. And I added the undampered transition test because it was easy.

Great, thank you for clarifying these points.

Cheers,
James
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Update:

Unfortunately, the infamous ivory feel key wear issue hasn't been fixed. Middle C is already showing signs of wear. Maybe when it get worn enough I'll varnish it or something...

Sorry to hear of your troubles. Real pity that this is still an issue.

Are you guys washing your hands before you play? I see people of the opera do it all the time. Also they have guys cleaning the pianos with whiteboard cleaning fluid stuff like twice a day or something (ok maybe once a week but there's a lot of pianos here so there's always somebody tuning/rubbing something).

When I play guitar if I don't wash my hands the neck would clog up and loose the slipperiness in a week or two. I even keep a towel to wipe it clean afterwards. Maybe I should start doing that with the piano too?

By the way I've found the NX sounds a lot better when the volume is turned up quite loud. When volume is low I start to hear slight phasy sounds from the mid to mid-high notes and the bass boominess is gone. When cranked it sounds wonderful. Watch your ears though. I pulled the trigger on a pair of Genelec monitors the other day so I'll experiment with putting the monitors far away and crank the volume and see what happens.

Cheers
Fred

Going to pick up this DP tomorrow as an early bday present for my wife. Just a quick question, does it come with any sort of key cover/dust protection device of any sort??

I am concerned by the note stealing issue, but everything else about the Piano screams quality, and I was considering the Korg SV-1 as an alternative, but my wife has her heart set on the roland.

Thanks in advance.

No. They make nice black elastic things you can buy, but we just lay a towel over ours when we're not using it.


More of a note damp stealing issue - notes play but they get rudely cut off at key lift. It's easy to reproduce, but you probably won't encounter it unless you play back an MP3 and attack the keys like a frenzied demon.

Hey,

finally !!! Thx for that one !!

I play the ORGAN and we have a bath tub nearby to wash our hands.

AND we play in socks and shoes are NOT allowed

Alexander

Funny, I thought I invented that one