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Stopping damper squeaking
#1608807 01/30/11 01:35 PM
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I put some graphite from a pencil sharpener on
the axle that the damper for 1 note swivels on
and it stopped the squeaking for a few days.

Is there something locally not from a piano supply
that can be put on this?

Dave

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A clarification of terms would be helpful. By axle, do you mean the center pin in the damper lever center? Best not put anything intrusive. Graphite will gum things up. It may need to be repinned at this point. Calling a tech is probably the best option here.


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asd123321 #1609543 01/31/11 03:10 PM
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What good would it do to replace the pin if the
wood is sticking? How about putting the Protek CLP
lubrication I saw at a Piano Supply which is good
on wood and metal? What is it?

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Originally Posted by asd123321
What good would it do to replace the pin if the
wood is sticking? How about putting the Protek CLP
lubrication I saw at a Piano Supply which is good
on wood and metal? What is it?

How about hiring a tech who knows what they are doing


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asd123321 #1609643 01/31/11 05:18 PM
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Wayne... thumb ha


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asd123321 #1609816 01/31/11 08:47 PM
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My four questions are still unanswered. One wouldn't think a squeak couldn't be dealt with without expensive service call.

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so far you have proven that you need a tech and are too cheap to hire one,we can't figure out what is wrong with your piano through the internet. you need a tech


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If you keep screwing around with it yourself, you're liable to make your service call turn into quite an expense eventually. Call a tech. We can only guess without seeing the piano. This is like asking a car mechanic what's wrong without showing him the car.



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Yes he could use a tech but maybe he is not able to afford a service call right now. Right now he needs to get rid of the squeak so he can continue to make music, which after all is what this is all about. Yes get yourself some protek CLP lubricant and apply it to the problem area. just use a small amount at a time until the squeak is gone. Hopefully it will solve the problem but if not have it looked at the next time you have the piano tuned.applied carefully and just to the problem area should not cause any problems.

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Uprights and grand damper systems are very different from each other. You didn't even tell us what king of piano you have. Please don't start applying anything, not graphite, not CLP, not anything, till you know what's causing the squeak. After you know that, you can decide on the best repair.


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Originally Posted by asd123321
What good would it do to replace the pin if the wood is sticking?

He was talking about the use of graphite being a problem on center pins, because of its tendency to gum up the contact area between the pin and its bushing. Over time you may find this part starts to exhibit friction and not function properly.

Originally Posted by asd123321
My four questions are still unanswered.

Experience has informed many technicians that a squeak is often not what you think it is, and the proper diagnosis and treatment ought to be performed by a knowledgeable tech, in-person. I suspect your questions going unanswered reflects this, and is not helped by your sense of entitlement.

Originally Posted by asd123321
One wouldn't think a squeak couldn't be dealt with without expensive service call.

One might be wrong. One might cause an even more expensive service call by self-diagnosis and treatment. But some people are very adept and figuring things out themselves. Before I got into piano work, I fixed something successfully and thought "hey, that wasn't so bad," and then I fixed something else and ended up tarnishing my bass strings. Live and learn.

It's your piano, you certainly have every right to treat it however you want. However, please don't blame technicians for not providing free advice, when they don't believe it can be properly given remotely.


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Originally Posted by Jim Moy

Originally Posted by asd123321
What good would it do to replace the pin if the wood is sticking?

He was talking about the use of graphite being a problem on center pins, because of its tendency to gum up the contact area between the pin and its bushing. Over time you may find this part starts to exhibit friction and not function properly.

Originally Posted by asd123321
My four questions are still unanswered.

Experience has informed many technicians that a squeak is often not what you think it is, and the proper diagnosis and treatment ought to be performed by a knowledgeable tech, in-person. I suspect your questions going unanswered reflects this, and is not helped by your sense of entitlement.

Originally Posted by asd123321
One wouldn't think a squeak couldn't be dealt with without expensive service call.

One might be wrong. One might cause an even more expensive service call by self-diagnosis and treatment. But some people are very adept and figuring things out themselves. Before I got into piano work, I fixed something successfully and thought "hey, that wasn't so bad," and then I fixed something else and ended up tarnishing my bass strings. Live and learn.

It's your piano, you certainly have every right to treat it however you want. However, please don't blame technicians for not providing free advice, when they don't believe it can be properly given remotely.


Well put


Wayne Walker
Walker's Piano Service
http://www.walkerpiano.ca/

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