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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: EmptySpace] #1604280
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I was just over there again (call it morbid curiosity), and now they're talking about politics.

Please tell me we won't ever sink that low here.


Ok. Lets talk about Jerry Lee Lewis and rockabilly from the 50's. Its still piano related. And I'll bet its below "the other forum", but a hellava lot more interesting. Bee Bop a Lu La, Roll over Beethoven!



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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: EmptySpace] #1604305
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Originally Posted by EmptySpace
I was just over there again (call it morbid curiosity), and now they're talking about politics.
Not really "they", mainly just one, and he's been politely asked to cool it and he has. Not that a few people don't enjoy a good spat (and a few others enjoy the spectator sport), but many are "normal" smile people like me, who just love music, like you nice people here on the AB forum.

(I lurk here, cause I teach adult beginners smile )


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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: mr_super-hunky] #1604307
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Well I wasn't going to post any more on the WAR thread, but I'm now being referred to by name. LOL. So I'm carrying the ABF flag as I cross the waters. laugh

Frankly, I realize the difference between PC and ABF is this: Here we want to learn. There, it's often about proving who's smarter than the other, since presumably they know everything there is to know about the piano.

Doesn't matter what the topic is.



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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: jazzwee] #1604308
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Originally Posted by jazzwee
Frankly, I realize the difference between PC and ABF is this: Here we want to learn. There, it's often about proving who's smarter than the other, since presumably they know everything there is to know about the piano.
There are certainly those who fit that description! laugh
Just not all.


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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: currawong] #1604311
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Originally Posted by currawong
Originally Posted by jazzwee
Frankly, I realize the difference between PC and ABF is this: Here we want to learn. There, it's often about proving who's smarter than the other, since presumably they know everything there is to know about the piano.
There are certainly those who fit that description! laugh
Just not all.


LOL. smile Exaggerating of course...hehe.


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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: jazzwee] #1604318
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Originally Posted by jazzwee
Well I wasn't going to post any more on the WAR thread, but I'm now being referred to by name. LOL. So I'm carrying the ABF flag as I cross the waters. laugh


(sucker <snort>)

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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corn [Re: -Frycek] #1604321
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Originally Posted by -Frycek
Crude and lewd are pretty strong words, representing behaviors which are by definition offensive. What I've observed is that simply saucy, mildly bawdy, is ok while truly crude, lewd, abusive or verbally pornograhic isn't.
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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: mr_super-hunky] #1604348
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Originally Posted by mr_super-hunky
casinitaly everything is good. I'm almost ready to record my recital piece and then I'm going to work on a tear jerker piano bar submission for you just as promised. Any requests?



You know I have to stop and think...There aren't many songs that are tear jerkers for me. This one however..... well, I 'm listening to it as I type and I'm already snivelly.
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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: mr_super-hunky] #1604395
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this AB forum has been the most remarkable part of PW. It really has transformed Piano World to be a larger more accomodating HUGE forum. It has drawn people from all over the world and contributed to the other venues.

all we need now it a young peoples' forum.

that said, i don't know why members venture out into the other forums to diss posters or ';forums' who may have 'skills' or attitudes that are different from their own. There are all types of posters at PW.


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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: mr_super-hunky] #1604401
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There’s another forum? wink

I can’t even keep up with this one, I’m away from the computer for a few days and this five page thread pops up!


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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: casinitaly] #1604413
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Originally Posted by casinitaly
Originally Posted by mr_super-hunky
Any requests?



You know I have to stop and think...There aren't many songs that are tear jerkers for me. This one however..... well, I 'm listening to it as I type and I'm already snivelly.
Where have you been by Kathy Mattea

Gets me every time.


check out this gorgeous song by Katie Melua


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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: mr_super-hunky] #1604414
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Originally Posted by casinitaly
I would like to apologize for my too explicit explanation of a slang term used in the thread.
I have edited my post and I've reported myself to the mods...


No apology was necessary. Nobody was offended...well, hardly anyone...But you reported yourself to the mods? I thought only golfers - being practitoners of the last "gentlemen's game" - called rules violations on themselves laugh


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Originally Posted by John Frank
You see, sexual references, crude and lewd behavior and bawdy language are mostly OK with the mods

You are quite mistaken.


Not so much mistaken as grossly exaggerating - as I believe you already must know my statement was meant as ironic satire, which requires and demands said gross exaggeration.


Originally Posted by -Frycek
...Crude and lewd are pretty strong words, representing behaviors which are by definition offensive. What I've observed is that simply saucy, mildly bawdy, is ok while truly crude, lewd, abusive or verbally pornograhic isn't.


Yes, saucy and mildly bawdy (and slightly kinky)! I'll drink to that thumb


Originally Posted by -Frycek
...It's not nice though if basically polite, well spoken adults feel so restricted that they have to continually self censor. Political correctness already has us all glancing over our verbal shoulders.


+1,001

Brilliantly said! (emphasis mine)

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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: TrapperJohn] #1604425
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Originally Posted by John Frank
Originally Posted by casinitaly
I would like to apologize for my too explicit explanation of a slang term used in the thread.
I have edited my post and I've reported myself to the mods...


No apology was necessary. Nobody was offended...well, hardly anyone...But you reported yourself to the mods? I thought only golfers - being practitoners of the last "gentlemen's game" - called rules violations on themselves laugh


Well, I'm a gentlewoman... or try to be. Sometimes I slip up.
I didn't report myself to be "honest" - it was because regretted having been (from my point of view) unnecessarily explict in my definition. I was able to edit my own post, but I was quoted in another post and wished to have the that quote removed also.

I didn't want to remain on record with that remark in my posts.

As far as being PC goes, I not a fan of the principle. I don't think you can "legistlate" people into thinking decently, it is a lifetime of learning - play nice, be kind, that makes a difference, not some politician telling me I have to say "your choice of PC expression".

However, I do think it is true that we all modify our behaviour (including vocabulary) based on our interlocators - for example, a word you might perfectly comfortably use in front of your same-age friends, might be be removed from your vocabulary were you to be speaking to your maiden aunt or grandmother, or your nieces. I don't consider that PC, it is simply common courtesy, which is, sadly, not so common. Thus we have the all too frequent efforts of "the powers that be" trying to force people to be something they've never learned how to be. (and I think 9 times out of 10 things that are said in an effort to be PC are just that - not sincere, just a wish to not get called out on not being PC)

Anyway, that's my take on it.


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Originally Posted by apple*
Originally Posted by casinitaly
Originally Posted by mr_super-hunky
Any requests?



You know I have to stop and think...There aren't many songs that are tear jerkers for me. This one however..... well, I 'm listening to it as I type and I'm already snivelly.
Where have you been by Kathy Mattea

Gets me every time.


check out this gorgeous song by Katie Melua


It's really lovely - ..... but it didn't make me cry smile


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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: mr_super-hunky] #1604591
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In addition to greatly missing Sotto Voce I've noticed the continued lack of participation in the ABF of Horowitzian, who always had good advice to offer and much knowledge about matters piano. And a good sense of humor. His only serious flaw was his obstinant contention that Horowitz was a better pianist than Rubinstein - but we all have our weak points smile

Another person of much interest who is missed is Rosanna, who used to post frequently in the ABF (but not often in the PC as I recall - much to her credit!). Her Recital and Piano Bar pieces were always highly listenable and well-played.
She also had a highly commendable sense of humor. Wonder what happened to her? Maybe she lost her sense of humor and thus qualified to become a moderator here laugh

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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: TrapperJohn] #1604609
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Horowitzian essentially left when he started his own music website last year.

Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: mr_super-hunky] #1604622
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He's not been there either. I do believe it's pressure of work.


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Originally Posted by John Frank
Maybe she lost her sense of humor and thus qualified to become a moderator here laugh

JF


laugh

Oops, sorry, I meant mad


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This thread made me smile.

I've always thought the main distinction for this forum was as Shiro & others mentioned, being a place for people beginning to learn piano as an adult. Clearly we face more challenges & obstacles in our piano development than do those fortunate enough to have learned to read and play music as a child. But in any case I can't ever remember a situation where anyone was made to feel unwelcome.

It's been years since I've actively participated in topic discussions (or the recitals), but I do still look and lurk and learn from the ABF. It's a great place!


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Re: Question: Are we the "farm league" for the Pianist corner? [Re: mr_super-hunky] #1604664
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As the OP of this thread, I would like to say that my original question had been answered many pages ago.

Bottom line: While there are many differences between the ABF and the PC, the ABF is more *amateur* oriented while the PC is more for pro's.

I asked a very *baited* question numerous pages ago which was motivated by the 14 year old menace that seems to still live inside me (at times).

While this question was intended as simply having some adult (word-play) fun, I can see how it may also be misconstrued as having poor taste.

The bottom line is that the wrong people are apologizing and the truly guilty party is skating free once again.

Of course I'm part of the problem as I seem to always be. I do however realize that enough is enough, especially when some people could be getting hurt or offended as a result.

We are at that point with this thread!

Rather than continue with pointed comments towards others, it may be better to stop and simply let this thread die down.

My hat goes off to casinitaly for being such a good sport and also to our moderator Greg as he's in a no-win situation in many instances....like this one.

There are (and should be) no hard feelings amongst anyone as nothing has happened. It's just a good time to move on and do something else.

One week 'till recital gates open. I know what I'm gonna go do!

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