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Yamaha CLP-400 series
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- redesigned cabinet with front legs
- more powerful sound system
- panel button cover (i think roland came out with this first)
- built in usb audio recorder, but in wav format =(
- auto EQ setting for highs and lows(is this the enhanced iAFC function?)
- new linear graded hammer feature for flagship CLP-470/480 model (replicates the nuances of a traditional piano with - 88 levels of gradations. let's hope it will be better than GH3)
- to ship in spring 2011
- starting from MSRP $2899

Source, extracted from Pg 12 of 38 on this web link:
http://www.namm.org/files/presskits/Yamaha2011NAMMPresskit.pdf

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sound engine stays the same? sick

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sid4iwpa #1595845 01/12/11 07:13 AM
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Nice find!

The new cabinet design is a significant improvement over the previous generations - I wonder if all of the models (even the CLP-430) will have front legs (like the CN33)?

Looks like the cheaper YDP-160/161 killed off any possibility of a CLP-420 too.

I'm most interested in the new action on the CLP-470/480 and CLPS-408 - I wonder if this will also be in the streamlined N1?

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sid4iwpa #1595846 01/12/11 07:15 AM
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should be better as the press release doc says it has the intelligent acoustic control function that will automatically adjust the EQ based on the volume.....

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... intelligent acoustic control function that will automatically adjust the EQ based on the volume ...
Isn't that just a verbose restatement of "iAFC"? In the past, that was available only on the top-end CLP models. Will it be available on the lower-priced models? And will that even matter? ... because the cheap sound systems on those won't really benefit from it.

Conspicuously lacking ... any mention of the tone generation. Roland leaped ahead with modeling in the V and supernatural in the HP-series. What is Yamaha doing? The press kit doesn't say anything.

Completely redesigned cabinetry!
Front legs!
Panel Reveal Key Cover!
Is that all they can say to tout their new line?

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Kawai James #1595986 01/12/11 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
I'm most interested in the new action on the CLP-470/480 and CLPS-408


Yes, me too.

While others use the 10 years old (or little few) GH3. Big success for that action!


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sid4iwpa #1596286 01/12/11 06:39 PM
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Hmmm...do you think '88 levels' means that every key is now a slightly different weight (as opposed to groups of keys)?

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sid4iwpa #1596559 01/13/11 06:16 AM
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hmmm..... no idea. let's hope Yamaha read this and may they have a technology break through when they implement the next clp series......

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Kawai James #1596900 01/13/11 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Hmmm...do you think '88 levels' means that every key is now a slightly different weight (as opposed to groups of keys)?


Their use of the word 'linear' would suggest that: "new Graded Linear Hammer feature, which replicates the nuance of a traditional piano with 88 levels of gradations from top to bottom". Technically, if you call it linear, it should be linear, plus they are saying 88 levels of gradations, so that should mean a different weight for every key.

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sid4iwpa #1596972 01/13/11 08:18 PM
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Their use of the word 'linear' would suggest ... that they want you imagine something wonderful, without their having actually stated anything at all. It's pure market-speak.

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sid4iwpa #1597168 01/14/11 05:34 AM
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Hmmm...

Soundboard speaker on the CLP-480?
Clavinova badge on the music rack has been replaced by a Yamaha logo on the top board?

Interesting!

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Kawai James #1597271 01/14/11 10:49 AM
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Kawai James,
Where did you see the pics. Can you provide the link, please.

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Andrew
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what about sampling? are all 88 keys individually sampled? when do we get to hear a demo and when will they be released in UK I wonder. Also I really hope the speaker system on the 480 is as good as 380.

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Key action continues to be the bane of DP makers.

Cant someone come up with a Digital answer to Key action similar to the Digital answer to Sound.

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Re: Action
Doesn't the Avant Grand satisfy that need?

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Did anyone try the CLP-470/480 at NAMM?

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sid4iwpa #1601415 01/20/11 11:38 AM
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There is a new presentation (in German)



Short translation, just the buzzwords:

New concept "Real Grand expression"
New Tonegenerator "RGE" tone generation.
Linear graded hammer
Realistic Pedal with realistic feedback force.
7 new models, slimline and Grand piano (and probably surface finishes) included.
Display and knobs can be hidden.
"Big" sound because "soundboard speaker".
There is no delivery schedule and pricing yet.

I cannot further explain the buzzwords, because he did not do it. He speaks about the CLP 400 series in a whole, but I doubt that the lower models have all features. (I know this from other Yammi advertisements, they let it unclear (by purpose? and to know it you must read the specs (who, however does this? grin) )

It is usual for Yamaha that in a new serie the lower models get features from former top models. Sometimes they simply rename the old topmodels and sell them as new middle class models and only the new top models get new features.

I am a little bit surprised about the realistic pedal and I doubt that all models will have it. It is already known, that only the top models get the linear graded hammer keyboard.

I am also surprised that the AvantGrand N1 seemingly did not get such a realistic pedal, at least there is nothing mentioned about it.

Best,

Peter


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