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Learning from sheets quickly #1582632
12/23/10 05:48 AM
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This like the second part of my "quickly learning christmas songs" thread.

So let's say I have like 15 sheets of christmas songs I want to learn in few days. How would you get as many information as quickly as possible from those sheets in order to skim through them, memorize the basis of the song and perfecting or adding details later?

Have you ever tried something like this? Like having a short amount of time to learn the structure, melody and harmony of a piece and using the sheet to give you cues without literally learning it perfectly, bar by bar and with all the details?

Any thought?

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Re: Learning from sheets quickly [Re: Motorama] #1582634
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It depends on your skills and the dificulty of the pieces...
But I would advice you to be more objective: why don't you select few pieces instead of 15? Choose the pieces that fit better your skills; then do a progressive study to reach the desire melody. You can also listen the piece and try to figure dificult parts (youtube is a good starting point).

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Re: Learning from sheets quickly [Re: Motorama] #1582785
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The Adult BEGINNERS Forum may not be the best place to ask about this - I'm not saying you can't do it, just that as a beginner (I've been playing 2+ years), I'm pretty sure I couldn't do it. Trying to learn 15 pieces - getting them to where I'd be comfortable playing them for others - in 2 days at my level would be a waste of time. I'd have a better chance of learning 3 pieces. If I tried for 15, I'd likely end up with 0. (But if I got 3 working OK & had time left, I might try for a couple more.)


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Re: Learning from sheets quickly [Re: Motorama] #1582804
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You need more time. At least 1 or 2 weeks, even then that's a lot of material. Either that, or work your butt off 24 7.


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Re: Learning from sheets quickly [Re: Motorama] #1582956
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Maybe you can just play the chords instead of a full melody. Lately my sister asked me to play a pop tune and I just took the guitar version and pressed that chords on the piano. You can play these chords by sight reading with little practice, and I guess they are easy to memorize too.


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Re: Learning from sheets quickly [Re: Motorama] #1583128
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How are your reading skills? If they can handle the music, then there's nothing to worry about.

If you can't read through them, reduce the score to a level so you can read it easily.

Also, if you're perfectly comfortable playing mediocre, bland sounding Christmas carols (and your audience doesn't mind at all) then learn the chord progressions and set a standard pattern to the left hand and play the melody on the right. Nothing fancy but gets the job done.

Personally I'd rather have people just sing along while playing the progressions, this way there only the progression to learn haha.

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Re: Learning from sheets quickly [Re: joyoussong] #1583190
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Originally Posted by joyoussong
The Adult BEGINNERS Forum may not be the best place to ask about this - I'm not saying you can't do it, just that as a beginner (I've been playing 2+ years), I'm pretty sure I couldn't do it. Trying to learn 15 pieces - getting them to where I'd be comfortable playing them for others - in 2 days at my level would be a waste of time.


True, but the idea was not to learn the pieces as in practicing hand separate, memorize all the notes, reade the score but using a combination of cues from the sheets and my ear to create fast arrangements. The melodies are so well known that it's not like I really need to learn them.

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Suggestion: create your own lead sheets.

Play according to lead sheet and play around the melody.

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Re: Learning from sheets quickly [Re: Motorama] #1583301
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For the short term (ie this xmas) I agree with those who said to simplify and play chords.

As a longer term objective, work on sight-reading daily with the goal of getting pieces to a playable state in the shortest time possible. There are many sight-reading threads out there, and many people suggest playing pieces once and moving on in order to improve SR skill. I personally have not found that helpful. I have been concentrating instead on getting "easy piano" pieces to a playable state in one or two sittings. To do that you need to understand the chord flow, memorize and drill hard parts, quickly recognize triads and doubles as single thoughts, establish fingering (penciling in where different from printed), memorize any section following a page turn, plan for page turns by omitting one hand if necessary, simplify (or add complexity) where beneficial -- all that in addition to normal SR development like reading ahead and minimizing page looks.

I've been doing that most of the year and have been pleasantly surprised at how my christmas music sounds this year -- following a couple years of pretty dismal failure.

Good luck to you.

Re: Learning from sheets quickly [Re: Motorama] #1583335
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It think what bluekeys is saying is (correct me of I'm wrong)

Is to learn a truck load of music from reading scores.

Re: Learning from sheets quickly [Re: Rui725] #1583341
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That's pretty close, but more like "Learn a truck load of simple music by doing the stuff I listed, as opposed to just going thru the motions of sight reading every day, which, if you're like me continued to sound horrible even after a few years." Ok, not a pretty-sounding one-liner, but that was my point.

I would also add, don't let that stop you from also working on more complicated pieces at the same time.

Maybe the one-liner is "if you want to play from sheets quickly, practice doing just that." smile


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