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#1484376 - 07/30/10 02:43 AM Chopin - Waltz in A minor  
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Well now its time for hollydays, but before i want to show you my last record.

The posthume waltz in A minor of Friederich Chopin. When you see the score its seems not to be finish, because there are no indications of dynamics, but it is still beautifull. I hope you enjoy.

In Spanish:

http://rubanetti.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/vals-en-la-menor-friederich-chopin/

or in youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmNgThf_i4U

regards


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#1484757 - 07/30/10 03:28 PM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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Excellent, what DP are you using?

Hopefully one day I'll be able to play like that.

Cheers

Martin

#1497909 - 08/17/10 12:36 PM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: MF-Blues]  
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Originally Posted by MF-Blues
Excellent, what DP are you using?

Hopefully one day I'll be able to play like that.

Cheers

Martin


I use a Yamaha CLP-330 with the grand piano1 sound. With effort and practice everythings is posible, dont give up. If you need something tell us wink


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#1498941 - 08/18/10 08:39 PM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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You play it very stiffly tempo wise. Remember, this is Chopin not Strauss. I don't think your playing this for anyone to dance to so use rubato and also pedaling the base chords would give it a far more lush tone.

#1499291 - 08/19/10 12:51 PM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: MikeN]  
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I hear the notes, but not much else...
Listen to how the masters play Chopin waltzes.
Yours sounds like a machine is playing. This is music. You're allowed to play it musically. First things first-the left hand is not staccato. You need to use the pedal.

The general idea in Chopin is that the left hand plays strictly in time while the right hand plays freely. For advanced players it gets more complicated, but it's a good place for you to start.

Play around with it. Explore the possibilities of character which are present in this lovely music. It can be played in many ways, expressing many characters and emotions.

Yours failed to establish any character whatsoever. You butchered it cruelly.

I know you can do better.

#1516545 - 09/16/10 11:54 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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Your DP has a very nice tone - I'm also curious about what you recorded with as the sound is very clear.


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#1520303 - 09/22/10 03:57 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Pam T]  
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Thanks you all for your comments. Instead of i havent reply i have take your comments and try to follow them. Thanks you so much for the help laugh

Originally Posted by Pam T
Your DP has a very nice tone - I'm also curious about what you recorded with as the sound is very clear.

Hi Pam. I have a Yamaha CLP 330, the sound i use is the Grand Piano of yamaha which is in the DP. To record it i use the headPhones out, connected to a computer. This output is stereo and just i have to record it also in stereo. I never modify the tempo or anything of the record, just syncrhonize with the video recorded at the same time. If you have any doubt please tell me.


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#1524040 - 09/27/10 10:37 PM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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Where is emotion ? You played it like a midi sorry but this is the worst Chopin a minor waltz interpretation i ever heard.


Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve.

#1524044 - 09/27/10 10:53 PM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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Rubanetti: With all due respect to the above post, what he said isn't true. smile

#1524236 - 09/28/10 09:13 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Mark_C]  
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Originally Posted by Mark_C
Rubanetti: With all due respect to the above post, what he said isn't true. smile


Thanks you so much for your comment, i respect all the critics, i know im not the best player, and i play some pieces better than this one. I never take the critics like offense instead of that i always try to learn of my errors and look at the critics to improve my playing.

I really celebrate you dont think my playing is the worst. If there is only a person who like my playings its a good way to continue working. Thanks you so much.


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#1524478 - 09/28/10 03:30 PM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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Originally Posted by rubanetti
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Rubanetti: With all due respect to the above post, what he said isn't true. smile


Thanks you so much for your comment, i respect all the critics, i know im not the best player, and i play some pieces better than this one. I never take the critics like offense instead of that i always try to learn of my errors and look at the critics to improve my playing.

I really celebrate you dont think my playing is the worst. If there is only a person who like my playings its a good way to continue working. Thanks you so much.


I didnt say your playing is worst i said your playing lack of emotion


Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve.

#1525401 - 09/30/10 03:12 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Batuhan]  
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Originally Posted by Batuhan

I didnt say your playing is worst i said your playing lack of emotion

Hi Batuhan, you can believe me if i say that i appreciate your comment,And i can show that follow your comments, i have recently recorded The poet Speaks of Schumann as you recommend me. I always look at the critics to learn a improve my playing, and im very thankful for your comment, but if you want to say just that my playing is lack of emotion, which maybe is true, you have not explained yourself correctly, because you say:
Originally Posted by Batuhan
Where is emotion ? You played it like a midi sorry but this is the worst Chopin a minor waltz interpretation i ever heard.


I hope i dont offend you with this comment, i really appreciate your comments but i preffer clear the question. Regards.


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#1525431 - 09/30/10 05:04 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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Originally Posted by rubanetti
Originally Posted by Batuhan

I didnt say your playing is worst i said your playing lack of emotion

Hi Batuhan, you can believe me if i say that i appreciate your comment,And i can show that follow your comments, i have recently recorded The poet Speaks of Schumann as you recommend me. I always look at the critics to learn a improve my playing, and im very thankful for your comment, but if you want to say just that my playing is lack of emotion, which maybe is true, you have not explained yourself correctly, because you say:
Originally Posted by Batuhan
Where is emotion ? You played it like a midi sorry but this is the worst Chopin a minor waltz interpretation i ever heard.


I hope i dont offend you with this comment, i really appreciate your comments but i preffer clear the question. Regards.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_rEhH5ocYE
You played here very emotional also i want to listen the poet speaks from you if you can put here. But your waltz in a minor recording indeed very disappointment for me. Maybe you have to use more sustain pedal, and rubato also your trills and mordents not expressive but your technique is good.

Last edited by Batuhan; 09/30/10 05:07 AM.

Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve.

#1525485 - 09/30/10 08:07 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Batuhan]  
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I apreciate your comments Batuhan, i will try to follow your indications, i will try to put the video of "The poet speaks" on the forum, but im not fully conviced of my performance :S


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#1525557 - 09/30/10 10:29 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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Originally Posted by rubanetti
I apreciate your comments Batuhan, i will try to follow your indications, i will try to put the video of "The poet speaks" on the forum, but im not fully conviced of my performance :S


If you are not conviced about your performance of der dichter spricht watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8E_0glY3nI this video cortot played with perfection also you have to dream the piece rather than play it. This is the quote stuck in my head for 8 years.


Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve.

#1526017 - 10/01/10 02:45 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Batuhan]  
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I have post the poet speaks in the forum, i hope you enjoy it.


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#1539007 - 10/19/10 07:00 PM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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Very good job. I think that perhaps you could use a bit more rubato (to make the left hand less metronome like) and maybe you could try to play a little bit more tenderly with a bit more legato (I find utilizing both finger and pedal legato very effective in Chopin). Also, you could use some more dynamic contrast. Even though it isn't indicated on the page, trust your fingers to let your heart feel where the dynamics should be. This valse is a beautiful one and dynamics can add to the beauty. Other than that, though, you played flawlessly and with a very waltz-like pace and a good tempo. Often I find the tempo of this valse overly dragged out or virtuosically fast, but this tempo was good. Keep up the good work!
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#1558947 - 11/16/10 11:39 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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Thanks you for your comment, i will try to follow your indications and improve my playing of this waltz smile


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#1572709 - 12/08/10 01:52 PM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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i like how you play the grace notes.

#1575842 - 12/13/10 10:03 AM Re: Chopin - Waltz in A minor [Re: Rubén Plaza Ramos]  
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The bass shouldn't be played in stacatto, you need to focus more on the pedaling.
You rush a little bit too much in some sections.
Try to fix that and post it again.
Good luck with it!


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