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Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period #1561444
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Can anyone please kindly suggest some "easy" pieces around Grade 3/4 level from pre-romantic/romantic period that is kind of slow in tempo and joyful to play? I have a feeling that my teacher is ready to assign me a new piece (probably around grade 4-5 level) from our talk during the last lesson. I'd rather take it proactively and find a piece that's more appealing and feels less technique demanding to me. I'm thinking Grieg, John Field, Hummel, or Schumann Op.15. Thanks in advance for your help!

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Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: pianoist d'amore] #1561452
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Grade 3/4 level? If your grade levels in California and mine in Canada are approximately similar, then Kinderszenen is more like grades 6/7/8. Or are we just on completely different grade systems? (for example, how many grades do you have there?)


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Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: pianoist d'amore] #1561469
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Chopin Prelude in A (Opus 28, no 7, "The Polish Dancer"). It's beautiful, about grade 4 - it is a little on the short side though.

I wonder if you are confusing Schumann's opus 15 and opus 68. Opus 68 does have some much easier pieces - like "Melody" that I recorded for this month's piano bar.


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Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: david_a] #1562390
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These grades are so annoying and misleading. Let's just say for a student who's done some substantial work on Bach's 2-part Inventions and half way through Schirmer's progressive study of Sonatina Album and who has never played any piece from romantic period and her teacher would like to give her a little taste of it, what would be some good choices...

I'm well aware of the difficulty of Op. 15 - that's why it's at the BOTTOM of my list. I mentioned it just because I saw my teacher pulling it out in my last lesson, so I want to get some idea which one from the collection would be considered EASIEST.

I've done a little bit more research on John Field's Nocturnes. No. 11 in Eb major (H56A) really looks pretty straight forward. Which grade does that piece compare to?



Originally Posted by david_a
Grade 3/4 level? If your grade levels in California and mine in Canada are approximately similar, then Kinderszenen is more like grades 6/7/8. Or are we just on completely different grade systems? (for example, how many grades do you have there?)

Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: Andy Platt] #1562397
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Is that the one Valentina Igoshina takes 8 years to get to? If it took someone with her musical intelligence 8 years to play, I should probably at least wait for another 20 years before I can even get a hint... :P Thanks for the recommendation. It is really beautiful... I love it!

It's just that for every new piece my teacher and I pick, it basically means at least another 100+ hours of hard work (and that doesn't count in the first few hours it took me to play through the piece). We really dig very very deeply into each one of them. That might explain why I'm sort of anxious about the new piece... It would probably drive me insane to spend several months on a half page score with one tune repeated four times. lolllll Maybe that's how it is supposed to be learned.

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Chopin Prelude in A (Opus 28, no 7, "The Polish Dancer"). It's beautiful, about grade 4 - it is a little on the short side though.

I wonder if you are confusing Schumann's opus 15 and opus 68. Opus 68 does have some much easier pieces - like "Melody" that I recorded for this month's piano bar.

Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: pianoist d'amore] #1562400
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Originally Posted by pianoist d'amore
Is that the one Valentina Igoshina takes 8 years to get to?


Yeah, that's the one. Perhaps you'll be lucky and get it in 15 years wink

I love that video, which I'll link to in case there's anyone in the world who hasn't seen it yet:


I assume that you really don't mind going into these pieces in that much detail - so long as the piece is worth it. Do you also study more "throwaway" pieces? To me I wouldn't mind getting to grips with one piece over a few months while running through 8 other easier ones in parallel.


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Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: Andy Platt] #1562410
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No, my teacher would absolutely not allow me to keep an easier fun collection on the side. The best I can do is to use the easier ones (like Schumann Op. 68 and some new age music) as my sight-reading exercises. I don't mind dwelling on my learning pieces for months since I learned so much. I feel it helps me to progress a lot faster this way since it only takes just a couple pieces before I progress to the next level. smile

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Is that the one Valentina Igoshina takes 8 years to get to?


Yeah, that's the one. Perhaps you'll be lucky and get it in 15 years wink

I love that video, which I'll link to in case there's anyone in the world who hasn't seen it yet:


I assume that you really don't mind going into these pieces in that much detail - so long as the piece is worth it. Do you also study more "throwaway" pieces? To me I wouldn't mind getting to grips with one piece over a few months while running through 8 other easier ones in parallel.

Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: pianoist d'amore] #1562445
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Chopin E-minor prelude 28-4

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Chopin A-minor Waltz Op. Posth.



Nocturne C# minor, FChopin
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Sonatine No2 Menuet, MRavel


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Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: pianoist d'amore] #1562448
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Originally Posted by pianoist d'amore
No, my teacher would absolutely not allow me to keep an easier fun collection on the side.


Are you not an adult learner who has some autonomy ?

I can undertand following a teacher's suggestions, but if you are not in a very strict program (ie not studying full time to be a concert pianist, or get a degree in music) why the rigidity here?

And even if you are in a serious musical study program - why on earth can you not have some fun relaxing stuff to play as well as the more challening?

That just doesn't sound right to me.


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Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: casinitaly] #1562467
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We work so intensely on these pieces. I don't feel like I have the energy left to do anything beyond my assigned pieces. Maybe after a few years once I get over the sharpest part of the learning curve, I'll finally start to enjoy the freedom to play and compose anything I like.

Originally Posted by casinitaly
Originally Posted by pianoist d'amore
No, my teacher would absolutely not allow me to keep an easier fun collection on the side.


Are you not an adult learner who has some autonomy ?

I can undertand following a teacher's suggestions, but if you are not in a very strict program (ie not studying full time to be a concert pianist, or get a degree in music) why the rigidity here?

And even if you are in a serious musical study program - why on earth can you not have some fun relaxing stuff to play as well as the more challening?

That just doesn't sound right to me.

Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: pianoist d'amore] #1562475
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Originally Posted by pianoist d'amore
These grades are so annoying and misleading. Let's just say for a student who's done some substantial work on Bach's 2-part Inventions and half way through Schirmer's progressive study of Sonatina Album and who has never played any piece from romantic period and her teacher would like to give her a little taste of it, what would be some good choices...

I'm well aware of the difficulty of Op. 15 - that's why it's at the BOTTOM of my list. I mentioned it just because I saw my teacher pulling it out in my last lesson, so I want to get some idea which one from the collection would be considered EASIEST.

I've done a little bit more research on John Field's Nocturnes. No. 11 in Eb major (H56A) really looks pretty straight forward. Which grade does that piece compare to?



Originally Posted by david_a
Grade 3/4 level? If your grade levels in California and mine in Canada are approximately similar, then Kinderszenen is more like grades 6/7/8. Or are we just on completely different grade systems? (for example, how many grades do you have there?)



that doesn't look easy

Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: JimF] #1562478
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Brilliant! THANK YOU!!!! I think I might have found the ONE. :-)

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Chopin E-minor prelude 28-4

Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: pianoist d'amore] #1562479
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Originally Posted by pianoist d'amore
Brilliant! THANK YOU!!!! I think I might have found the ONE. :-)

Originally Posted by JimF
Chopin E-minor prelude 28-4



now that's easy. and pretty too.

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Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: pianoist d'amore] #1562485
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I think it would be a bit strange for a teacher to demand that after finishing your assigned work you not be allowed to play anything else. Now, if your teacher noticed that you wasted all your time on other music and didn't even do what he asked you, that would be different, wouldn't it? smile


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Originally Posted by pianoist d'amore
These grades are so annoying and misleading.
No argument with that one. smile


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Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: itsfreakingmeout] #1562506
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Originally Posted by itsfreakingmeout
Originally Posted by pianoist d'amore
Brilliant! THANK YOU!!!! I think I might have found the ONE. :-)

Originally Posted by JimF
Chopin E-minor prelude 28-4



now that's easy. and pretty too.


Playing is somewhat easy, but playing with proper dynamics not so easy...

Great Choice though

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Originally Posted by Mark...
Originally Posted by itsfreakingmeout
Originally Posted by pianoist d'amore
Brilliant! THANK YOU!!!! I think I might have found the ONE. :-)

Originally Posted by JimF
Chopin E-minor prelude 28-4



now that's easy. and pretty too.


Playing is somewhat easy, but playing with proper dynamics not so easy...

Great Choice though



well that goes without saying

Re: Please suggest some easy pieces from romantic period [Re: pianoist d'amore] #1562989
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Wow, that was the most beautiful classical piano piece I've ever heard. Guess it's all in how you play it. I could learn to like classical music if it was all played this way with a lot of room to "breathe'


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