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Originally Posted by RonaldSteinway
I have more books than I am able to play.
I feel bad that I spent on books that I cannot even play them. It is like collecting receipe books, but we cannot cook.

By the way, I always buy Henle Urtext, and National edition of Chopin. I like Henle better.


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Is the OP question which scores do we most WANT in our library as in scores we don't yet own, or is the question "must have/can't live without" scores?

Honestly, I can't think of much that I don't already own that I really want, or that is a must have, but, if you take me to a good music store I'm still apt to spend far more than I can really afford, because I'm bound to find plenty that will interest me.



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Originally Posted by RonaldSteinway
I have more books than I am able to play.
I feel bad that I spent on books that I cannot even play them. It is like collecting receipe books, but we cannot cook.

By the way, I always buy Henle Urtext, and National edition of Chopin. I like Henle better.


I'm going that way too!

I keep remembering the attitude of the very fine guitar teacher I had many decades ago. He owned and ran a classical guitar school, employed a number of teachers and sold guitar music and instruments. People would come in and buy lots of music way beyond their capabilities and he would almost always make a slightly derogatory remark after they had left. Those remarks still haunt me, even after all this time!

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I cannot stop collecting piano concerto scores.

Dusty old books or Library copies, it don't matter.

I need help.

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what the main difference between the different editions? they are all the same notes right?

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Originally Posted by durden365
what the main difference between the different editions? they are all the same notes right?


Not necessarily; the accuracy of scores can depend upon which source(s) an edition uses. In some instances, for example, Dover uses reprints of late 19th century scores which, themselves, were heavily edited and which, recent research shows, were often not entirely faithful to the original text.

Perhaps the "best" examples of "bad" scores are some of the editions Busoni did of Bach. Not only did Busoni add tempo indications, dynamics, and phrasing which were not in the original manuscripts, he often added notes that Bach never even wrote because they were beyond the scope of the four-octave keyboard instruments of Bach's day.

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for chopin who makes the most accurate scores? henle urtext?

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In my opinion the Henle Urtext editions. The books always have some pages with information about the editing. They also keep updating. I own Henle Urtext of almost all the pieces I play.




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While I, too, am a fan of Henle editions for Chopin as well as for many other composers, one shouldn't overlook the new Polish edition of Chopin's works, PWM, edited by Jan Ekier. It was the "official" edition for the recent International Chopin Competition on whose jury Ekier served this year.

The one caveat that I always feel obliged to mention when I encourage the purchase of this edition is that for some works (Polonaises, Mazurkas, Waltzes,) you have to buy two volumes if you want the complete sets.

Nevertheless, the PWM is considered pretty authoritative, currently.

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Which publisher is good for Liszt? I need Un Sospiro for example.



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Originally Posted by FreddyChopin
Which publisher is good for Liszt? I need Un Sospiro for example.


Henle do a lovely edition of the trois etudes de concert smile

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Just on the topic of editions;
here's a video from Henle showing how their engravings are made.
Fascinating!
Henle Video

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Originally Posted by bryanw
Just on the topic of editions;
here's a video from Henle showing how their engravings are made.
Fascinating!
Henle Video


The link didn't work. If it's a link that shows how Henle hand engraves their scores - a video show here before - that is no longer the way Henle engraves. A visit to their website confirms that since (somewhere around) 2000, all their scores are now prepared using a computer program.

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Originally Posted by FreddyChopin
Which publisher is good for Liszt? I need Un Sospiro for example.


I've heard that Budapest is good, and I haven't heard any complaints against Henle yet either.

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Just on the topic of editions;
here's a video from Henle showing how their engravings are made.
Fascinating!
Henle Video


The link didn't work. If it's a link that shows how Henle hand engraves their scores - a video show here before - that is no longer the way Henle engraves. A visit to their website confirms that since (somewhere around) 2000, all their scores are now prepared using a computer program.

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It works ok for me still.
Yes, that's the video! Didn't realise it'd been posted, apologies.

It's still fascinating to see though!
A shame the don't do it that way any longer, it seems more special somehow smile

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Just to be clear: I wasn't criticizing your posting of the video; it's really an interesting and fascinating one, and it does show the meticulous care that Henle takes (took) when engraving was the norm.

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