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Simplified Music Notation
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In the latest issue of Pianist magazine there's an insert advertising something called "Simplified Music Notation".
It references a Website:
http://www.simplifiedmusicnotation.org/

Since I already know how to read music (I think grin) I don't see much use for a new and different notation system. It seems to me learning one way or another is just as much trouble/fun.

What do you think? Do you use the simplified notation or know of someone who does?


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Let's see, conventional musical notation has been with us for several hundred years and someone has reinvented the wheel.

Hmmmmmmmmm ... sounds good to me!


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It's one of exactly two things: a gimmick to make money, or a "forlorn crusader" trying to change the world. In either case, the appropriate response is laughter.


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I don't really see how it simplifies anything. It's merely a different way of notation accidentals; everything else looks the same to me.


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Can not see any usefulness of this notation.........

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Originally Posted by Kreisler
I don't really see how it simplifies anything. It's merely a different way of notation accidentals; everything else looks the same to me.


Exactly... One could as well write out all the flats and sharps in the traditional way instead of changing the shape of the note head... confused



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Originally Posted by Kreisler
I don't really see how it simplifies anything. It's merely a different way of notation accidentals; everything else looks the same to me.

Exactly... One could as well write out all the flats and sharps in the traditional way instead of changing the shape of the note head... confused
I haven't looked at the link, but aaauugh, not the note-shape thing again! So hard on the eyes. I'd have to give up reading music if that were the only way.

There have been a number of threads on this in the past, if anyone's really interested. I won't say "do a search" because Mark_C will yell at me, but it's all there if you want to look for it.


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JGonzalezGUS #1555779 11/11/10 05:28 PM
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"Learn to read Simplified Music Notation in minutes (See statements from teachers)" - I really want to know who these teachers are.

"Explore more advanced music and expand your repertoire" - LOL.

"Read modern music free from the clutter of accidentals" - No, the accidentals are still there, but the noteheads are changed instead of external symbols.

"Enjoy sight-reading as an adventure, not a chore" - It's a chore whether you like it or not. Practice it more.

"Develop confidence that will improve your reading in traditional notation too" - Really??

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You want to see new notation, take a look at this ... the fun stuff starts at 1:05 ...





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JGonzalezGUS #1556310 11/12/10 02:47 PM
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well, it certainly makes sight reading an adventure, that's for sure.

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speaking of new notations... a non-piano playing friend of mine told me about this the other day:

http://synthesiagame.com/

it's like guitar hero for the piano. in fact this is the name they chose after activision threated to sue them.

i played in arcade a few times a similar game called keyboard mania or something, from the maker of DDR, konami. that was even before the days of guitar hero. in its full glory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcWX_SXz3Rw

i thought it was awesome. many quarters were wasted!

later playstation versions of it came out. today of course you can setup your own MIDI station... if you're technologically savvy.

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Without wanting to sound dismissive - wouldn't this notation completely destroy the ability to sightread fluently? A good sightreader grabs a measure or two as a chunk...how would you do that if you had to register that shape of every individual note. Then again maybe I'm just too resistant to change :-)


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JGonzalezGUS #1556499 11/12/10 07:24 PM
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The only good thing I see is it cuts out some clutter. I don't know why they bother to give a key signature with this method and I'd have to have that printed twice the size to be clear on the shapes. Silly.

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i like this type of thing


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Originally Posted by currawong
... aaauugh, not the note-shape thing again! So hard on the eyes. I'd have to give up reading music if that were the only way.

So, I guess we won't be seeing you at a shape-note singing any time soon. smile

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Isn't it mesmerizing in the most geeky way imaginable? :-) I love them. (music "machine" graphs on youtube that is.)

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apple has kindly given us ... Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in D minor ... in MIDI format ... (Music Animation Machine ... the SHAPE of music).

Even better ... here is the identical shape as a score (GRAPHIC MUSIC) which might amuse some ... the MIDI format accurately shows PITCH (vertically) and NOTE DURATION (horizontally) on a GRAND STAVE (6 octaves).

The page shows the first 32 measures of the Toccata ...
the shape and flow of Bach’s masterpiece ...
for easy comprehension and playing.

PS The concept might bruise a few minds.

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Originally Posted by btb
apple has kindly given us ... Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in D minor ... in MIDI format ... (Music Animation Machine ... the SHAPE of music).

Even better ... here is the identical shape as a score (GRAPHIC MUSIC) which might amuse some ... the MIDI format accurately shows PITCH (vertically) and NOTE DURATION (horizontally) on a GRAND STAVE (6 octaves).

The page shows the first 32 measures of the Toccata ...
the shape and flow of Bach’s masterpiece ...
for easy comprehension and playing.

PS The concept might bruise a few minds.

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No bruises. An interesting graph, neat to look at. One hundred percent worthless for music reading. Are you doing this as a money-making gimmick, or are you a "forlorn crusader"? Just wondering whether my tone of laughter should be pitying or patronizing.


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Thanks for that david,
Sorry to have bruised your mind .

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Originally Posted by btb

PS The concept might bruise a few minds.



How so? The last time I used a midi sequencer (dr. T on the Atari 1040St) the 'midi' was just a list of notes in the order they were played, something like:

E1 | 128 | 22
F# | 110 | 24


and so on. More data was described, note length, volume, controllers, all in a scale from 0-128. Just saying, it could be a lot worse. laugh

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