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Too bad I am missing WUNDER's performance AGAIN! I'm in the car when he performs, but I'm sure he will proceed to the finals, which are going to be AWESOME. I just hope they don't all play the 2nd concerto, I like the first MUCH better.

The Mei-Ting dude is shaking a lot ! I'm afraid he is gonna fall of his hydraulic bench!!

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I think MTS played some major variants(his own?) in his Mazurkas Op.7 Nos. 1 and 2. Anyone ever hear those versions?

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Nope, we were discussing it on Mibbit as well. Though he is known for being very true to the score, but he put in 'new findings'.

Overall he made very much mistake's, and it seems the majority does not like his performance.


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He aced the last mvt.! !


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As for the forum chatters: well, haters gonna hate...

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Originally Posted by Victor25
Overall he made very much mistake's, and it seems the majority does not like his performance.
That's why he's been invited to perform the complete works of Chopin around the world during the last year.

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Ok comments from the commentators:

He did not meet the expectations, his playing was unnatural. Too many gestures, they expected more after a great 2nd stage,

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Overall he made very much mistake's, and it seems the majority does not like his performance.
That's why he's been invited to perform the complete works of Chopin around the world during the last year.


Pianoloverus, you always do that, but its actually perfectly legitimate for people to comment on a performance. And this was definitely not one of his better one's! If you like it sure, but I think there is no way he is getting in the finals. Also it makes NO sense at all, because how is a performance in the future going to affect a concert booking a year ago :|!

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I did not get to listen to all today, except for Evgenyi Bozhanov..I made time for him, right in my trusty Outlook calendar !! I thought he was terrific, and I really really like him. He is to me what Mei Ting is to PLUS.. laugh

Oh and, is it just me or is his mannerism somewhat less intense???


Maybe a little bit.

I thought both Bozhanov's and Wunder's performances some of the finest I've heard, but there is much I haven't heard yet.

There seems to be a lot of talk about individuality versus sounding like Chopin, but if you express something personally nice in your playing, who is to say whether it is you or Chopin.

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Wunder has been so good. Can't wait for his tonight!


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Originally Posted by Victor25
Ok comments from the commentators:

He did not meet the expectations, his playing was unnatural. Too many gestures, they expected more after a great 2nd stage,

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Overall he made very much mistake's, and it seems the majority does not like his performance.
That's why he's been invited to perform the complete works of Chopin around the world during the last year.


Pianoloverus, you always do that, but its actually perfectly legitimate for people to comment on a performance. And this was definitely not one of his better one's! If you like it sure, but I think there is no way he is getting in the finals. Also it makes NO sense at all, because how is a performance in the future going to affect a concert booking a year ago :|!
I didn't say it wasn't legitimate to comment on performances. I was commenting on what IMO are the silly nature of some of the comments.

You missed the point I was making...that someone who has been invited to play Chopin all over the world knows a lot about playing Chopin. That's why I find dismissive comments (the majority of which are made by non pros) about any terrific pianist silly. The competition judges have disagreed many times with the online commentators. You referred to the majority of people at some other site you listened to, but why would one think they were particularly knowledgable?

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You might be surprised, but those are actually the people that are going to buy tickets to a next concert. This is not something like America's got Talent, where all un-talented/ignorant people are giving their opinions. I'm quite sure that 90% of the people that watch this, are either serious about piano playing, or are people that regular attain concerts.


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Originally Posted by Victor25
You might be surprised, but those are actually the people that are going to buy tickets to a next concert. This is not something like America's got Talent, where all un-talented/ignorant people are giving their opinions. I'm quite sure that 90% of the people that watch this, are either serious about piano playing, or are people that regular attain concerts.


I'm not sure I understand your point, or perhaps I missed something along the way. I know a lot of people who go regularly to concerts, who listen regularly to classical music and have opinions about it and about performers, but I don't think that that necessarily makes them better judges - or even as good as - the jury members who are judging this competition.

Keep in mind, too, that however technically good the broadcast is, it is still a broadcast and may not compare to the nuances heard, live, in the hall.

Many people are influenced by 'charisma' on stage while others are more influenced by the content of the performance while still others are trying to balance both in their assessments.

So, the fact that the people you refer to and who are making critiques of these performances are those who are buying teickets to the next concert doesn't seem relevant to the discussion.

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Finally got to watch one. Ingolf Wunder. I was a little bored with the Op 61 but it was better than mine. I like a little freer form with less pedal. This is a hard competition to get into unless you just absolutely adore and worship Chopin. Thank goodness for the archive and the chronicle.

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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Victor25
You might be surprised, but those are actually the people that are going to buy tickets to a next concert. This is not something like America's got Talent, where all un-talented/ignorant people are giving their opinions. I'm quite sure that 90% of the people that watch this, are either serious about piano playing, or are people that regular attain concerts.


I'm not sure I understand your point, or perhaps I missed something along the way.


With due respect, please read back.


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Boy, guys, after this week, I'm more intrigued than ever to see what Saturday evening's verdict is.




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I thought it was interesting how young Nikolay Kozyainov's performance was breathtaking in the early stages when he played CHopin's "younger" pieces. But his magic waned when confronting the more mature works, such as the sonata, the Baracarolle, etc..

For me, it is between Bozhanov and Wunder.
I have to say that Mei Ting Sun was also very good but not as consistent across the board.

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Originally Posted by Andromaque
I thought it was interesting how young Nikolay Kozyainov's performance was breathtaking in the early stages when he played CHopin's "younger" pieces. But his magic waned when confronting the more mature works, such as the sonata, the Baracarolle, etc..

For me, it is between Bozhanov and Wunder.
I have to say that Mei Ting Sun was also very good but not as consistent across the board.


And for me Wunder and Armellini

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so how many artists get through to the finals. i watched bits of wunder and liked him a lot. also enjoying Dumont ... and the fazioli

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i've just returned from Warsaw after yesterday's evening session. What I must say that hearing these pianists live is a COMPLETELY different experience than hearing them through the broadcast. The broadcast from TVP Kultura is really, really good though (the one available worldwide has much poorer sound quality).

It was a gorgeous evening, though I must say I was really tired. Listening online, sitting at your desk with tea at your side is much less demanding than listening carefuly at the life concert. Sonatas are very serious works, let's say... intellectually tiring. It was really hard for me to judge anything during Wunder's (the last one) performance.

And I think I am even more sick of Op. 61 now ;-) I was overloaded with this piece during Chopin Amateur Piano Competition last year - I guess I was not yet fully recovered to through hearing it 20 more times laugh


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