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#1533394 - 10/11/10 07:29 PM Know any remixed classical music?  
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At my school, I work in the A/V department and we have a morning show. We play music on the morning show and I want to expose the school to some older music, so they aren't bombarded with the utter crap that people call music nowadays. I want to expose them to classical music, but through some cool takes on classical music or pop music arranged for classical instruments, to have something different. Any suggestions?

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#1533411 - 10/11/10 08:10 PM Re: Know any remixed classical music? [Re: Skorpius]  
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Try some Maksim, perhaps. If you can show a video, his Croatian Rhapsody is a crowd-pleaser, and he does pure classical, too, e.g., Flight of the Bumblebee.

Croatian Rhapsody:



His "Sarabande" is pretty catchy, too:



Trans-Siberian Orchestra does classical with a heavy metal twist. Here's one of their official videos for Beethoven's Fifth:



And of course the "Wizards of Winter" video that went viral...



Epica has an entire "Classical Conspiracy" album that does classical pieces with a symphonic metal take. Here's an ex:




Mike Oldfield does pop/new age with orchestral arrangements. He's best known for "Tubular Bells," which he wrote when he was a teenager and played all the instruments himself. His most recent album ("Music of the Spheres") was intended to be a pure classical album. Here's "Harbinger" from that album:





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Well, it's certainly a remix wink

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Haha, some people are going to hate this thread, but if they do, they should just leave and not post anything.

I always liked this one:

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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
Haha, some people are going to hate this thread, but if they do, they should just leave and not post anything.

I always liked this one:


Hey, that's great! I guess it's DIY-development-section day, but still, pretty great.

It actually makes explicit a lot of feelings I've always had about this movement. For instance, the change in the drum back-beat from 0:43-0:48 to 0:49-0:54. I've always heard that kind of thing in the original, and I'm really glad they felt the same way.

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Here's one I quite like. And before you get up in arms over the name, the guy who did this goes by Wolfgang Gartner.

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Bond is really cool. They are a rocked up string quartet. Here's their version of the aquarium from saint saens carnival of animals.


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Originally Posted by Skorpius
I want to expose them to classical music, but through some cool takes on classical music or pop music arranged for classical instruments, to have something different.



In other words, you don't want to expose them to classical music, but want to pretend that you are.


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Here's something I did a few years ago with the first movement of Bach's G major solo cello suite using Reason (Redrum to be exact). The pictures are from a study of child development.


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Aw tJ, that just ain't right.


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This I actually bought because I liked the oboist:


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#1533715 - 10/12/10 08:26 AM Re: Know any remixed classical music? [Re: Skorpius]  
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Originally Posted by wr
Originally Posted by Skorpius
I want to expose them to classical music, but through some cool takes on classical music or pop music arranged for classical instruments, to have something different.



In other words, you don't want to expose them to classical music, but want to pretend that you are.



That's also how I interpret the original post. If you want to expose people to classical music, if you hope that some of them will develop a taste for it, an interest in it and even a passion for it, give them the real thing. Of course that may require some careful, judicious selecting which represents, perhaps, a fair amount of work. Otherwise, change the premise.

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Look up Apocalyptica on youtube. They have done classical as well as Metalica covers; they are classically trained cellists.


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I think some of those who are against the idea of using a souped up version of classical may not realize how low the average teenager's interest in this music really is. When I was teaching high school, I would often walk by the music teacher's room(he was very good and all sophomores had to take music 101) and watch in amazement as the students looked totally bored listening to selections like the Hallelujah Chorus or Beethoven's Ninth. There was more interest when the teacher put on a video of Horowitz because of the visual element.

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
I would often walk by the music teacher's room(he was very good and all sophomores had to take music 101) and watch in amazement as the students looked totally bored listening to selections like the Hallelujah Chorus or Beethoven's Ninth. There was more interest when the teacher put on a video of Horowitz because of the visual element.


That doesn't surprise me at all. To be honest I would feel pretty bored with the ubiquitous Hallelujah Chorus and you have to have an understanding of the music of Beethoven's time to grasp how revolutionary his 9th Symphony was (pity about the last movement though).

I was fortunate in the late 50s, early 60s that the music teacher at my school was a young composer who had recently graduated from the Royal Manchester College of Music when it was the centre of the 'Manchester School' (Birtwistle, Peter Maxwell Davis, Elgar Howarth, John Ogden, etc.) The music he played in class included Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, Hindemith's Symphonic Metamorphosis of Themes by Carl Maria von Weber (a rather tongue-in-cheek title), Bartok, Holst's Planets, Walton Overtures - even Stan Kenton performing Bob Graettinger's 'City of Glass'.

I think those and similar pieces are *much* more likely to hold the attention of young people than the Hallelujah Chorus!

By the way, after listening to some of the suggested clips, I think this thread is pretty sad (and very depressing). The one based on the Dies Irae from Verdi's Requiem was especially pointless - it had nothing of the terrifying dramatic impact of the movement it was based on. But then, similar things can be said of most of the stuff.

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I want to expose them to classical music, but through some cool takes on classical music or pop music arranged for classical instruments, to have something different.



In other words, you don't want to expose them to classical music, but want to pretend that you are.



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Originally Posted by Skorpius
I want to expose them to classical music, but through some cool takes on classical music or pop music arranged for classical instruments, to have something different.



In other words, you don't want to expose them to classical music, but want to pretend that you are.



That's also how I interpret the original post. If you want to expose people to classical music, if you hope that some of them will develop a taste for it, an interest in it and even a passion for it, give them the real thing. Of course that may require some careful, judicious selecting which represents, perhaps, a fair amount of work. Otherwise, change the premise.

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And might I add.....Maksim?????? I don't remember who posted the suggestions for him, but cmon! You CAN'T be serious? I'll not say more, lest I get myself started...



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Originally Posted by John_B
That doesn't surprise me at all. To be honest I would feel pretty bored with the ubiquitous Hallelujah Chorus and you have to have an understanding of the music of Beethoven's time to grasp how revolutionary his 9th Symphony was (pity about the last movement though).
Your musical suggestions may or not be better but I think your reasons for disliking the above works don't make much sense. The Hallelujah Chorus is not "ubiquitous" for teens, and one does not have to know anything about history to find the choral finale of the Beethoven extremely appealing.

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
I think some of those who are against the idea of using a souped up version of classical may not realize how low the average teenager's interest in this music really is.


Just to clarify, I am not against the arrangements, per se, but am against the pretense that it is classical music. It isn't. It is pop music borrowing stuff from classical, which isn't the same thing.

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Your musical suggestions may or not be better but I think your reasons for disliking the above works don't make much sense. The Hallelujah Chorus is not "ubiquitous" for teens, and one does not have to know anything about history to find the choral finale of the Beethoven extremely appealing.


I didn't say that I disliked Handel's Messiah or Beethoven's 9th (though I would prefer to hear both in their entirety, rather than a bleeding chunk).

What I was getting at is that neither the Hallelujah Chorus (definitely) nor the final movement of Beethoven's 9th (probably) are likely to grab young people by the balls in the same way that some of the more visceral music that was written in the C20 is likely to.

Actually I prefer the other movements of Beethoven's 9th to the choral finale - the first movement is truly remarkable and the slow movement touches the sublime. (It's not for nothing that you can clearly hear the influence of the first movement and the scherzo in most if not all of Bruckner's symphonies.)

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Originally Posted by wr
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I want to expose them to classical music, but through some cool takes on classical music or pop music arranged for classical instruments, to have something different.



In other words, you don't want to expose them to classical music, but want to pretend that you are.



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What I was getting at is that neither the Hallelujah Chorus (definitely) nor the final movement of Beethoven's 9th (probably) are likely to grab young people by the balls in the same way that some of the more visceral music that was written in the C20 is likely to.



I doubt it. One little tidbit I've learned from experience is that the only thing teenagers (especially those into mainstream rap/pop) dislike more than classical music is classical music they've never heard before.

If you really want to try to spark something that even resembles interest, stick to the most popular of the popular -- Beethoven's Fifth, Hungarian Rhapsody, William Tell, Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, Canon in D (ok, maybe not this one), The Blue Danube, Ride of the Valkyries, Stars and Stripes Forever(a little past the classical era, but oh well), Flight of the Bumblebee etc.

Then, maybe, after a while, you can ease into slightly more obscure pieces -- Mozart's 40th, Also Sprach Zarathustra, O Fortuna, The Barber of Seville Overture, Toccata and Fugue (less known than you might think -- no one really recognizes anything outside of the first 10 seconds of each section), etc.

It might not work -- then again, not much will -- however, as others have mentioned, I don't think that presenting remixed classical themes is likely to produce any appreciation for the real thing.


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Originally Posted by wr
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I think some of those who are against the idea of using a souped up version of classical may not realize how low the average teenager's interest in this music really is.


Just to clarify, I am not against the arrangements, per se, but am against the pretense that it is classical music. It isn't. It is pop music borrowing stuff from classical, which isn't the same thing.
Or it's classical music borrowing stuff from pop.

If listening to souped up classical gets them interested, why does it matter how anyone classifies it? It's certainly far closer to classical then the pop music most teens listen to.

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What was the orchestra that did of medley of famous and beautiful pieces of music? shocked


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I want to expose them to classical music, but through some cool takes on classical music or pop music arranged for classical instruments, to have something different.



In other words, you don't want to expose them to classical music, but want to pretend that you are.



A step towards is better than no step at all.


I think it is debatable whether it is a "step towards". Judging from the video suggestions so far, most of which I've at least listened to part of, I think if I were one of the kids, I'd probably think it was pretentious weirdness and probably somebody's idea of a joke, rather than being cool. I think the kids who like that kind of stuff probably are already aware of it, but then, I don't know what age group or location you are talking about.

Obviously, there must be an audience for crossover somewhere, because various permutations of it have been around for a long time (e.g., "I'm Always Chasing Rainbows"). I doubt that significant numbers of people start getting seriously involved in real classical music because of it.






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