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#1530452 - 10/07/10 06:31 PM Piano action model  
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Is there any place to buy an inexpensive grand action model? I looked at Renner and the cost was around $400 with shipping!

I am fascinated by these models but haven't found any online virtual models that move slowly enough to be helpful. I don't see why a model should be that expensive because 400 X 88 = a very large number!


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#1530504 - 10/07/10 07:17 PM Re: Piano action model [Re: pianoloverus]  
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You could ask around at your local piano store. Just a thought.


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#1530536 - 10/07/10 07:57 PM Re: Piano action model [Re: pianoloverus]  
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A pianos action is a complex thing. As you can see by the picture, each key on a grand piano has more than 35 points of adjustment. If you want an accurate operating action, even with only one key, this takes precision and time to build as it is not a toy.

A vertical piano action has over 25 points of adjustment.

$400 is the going rate for a new grand action model.



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#1530542 - 10/07/10 08:07 PM Re: Piano action model [Re: pianoloverus]  
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I've asked around the local shops for a year and a half with no luck on scoring one. I was loaned one for a time, but I did give it back...reluctantly frown but hey, that's my neighborhood


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#1531864 - 10/09/10 05:43 PM Re: Piano action model [Re: Les Koltvedt]  
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I see them once in a while on Ebay.. Keep your eyes peeled! laugh



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#1531868 - 10/09/10 05:48 PM Re: Piano action model [Re: pianoloverus]  
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#1532169 - 10/10/10 08:14 AM Re: Piano action model [Re: BDB]  
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Just in time for Halloween!


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#1532222 - 10/10/10 10:18 AM Re: Piano action model [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Pianoloverus,
Interesting 400 x 88 is actually 35200!!! Wow, you can get some really nice grands out there! Ya those stuff are really expensive. The cost puts me off from owning one. frown


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#1532300 - 10/10/10 12:15 PM Re: Piano action model [Re: pianoloverus]  
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And I gave the 3 models I had here away for nothing.



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#1532366 - 10/10/10 01:59 PM Re: Piano action model [Re: pianoloverus]  
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I gave one of mine away for nothing to a friend out east. I have another two but, they're mine, all mine! I use these to work on with my son WHEN I can get them to look at them!


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#1532592 - 10/10/10 08:03 PM Re: Piano action model [Re: pianoloverus]  
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I see them on eBay every now and then also made a few.

Dan "piano tinkerer"


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#1532700 - 10/10/10 11:38 PM Re: Piano action model [Re: pianoloverus]  
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I would suggest sending a post to the pianotech list at ptg.org:

http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech

You have to subscribe to the list in order to post a message, so I highly recommend signing up for a gmail account that is specifically for the list so your regular email doesn't get flooded with emails.


Ryan Sowers,
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