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Thanks for sharing! cool
There are a number of good ideas in your variation, but I'm not sure how to take into account perception of audio differences between CA63 + AKG K701 vs. CA93 + Sennheiser HD595 (brightness, bass, etc.).... layer dynamics 9 and normal voicing seems to be somewhat better for my set-up in this case.

Nevertheless, this made me have another go at retaining that mighty 'harmonic bell sound' of a Bösendorfer, while making pianissimo playing just a little easier at the same time. Does this work for you too?


BRUTAL BASS BÖSENDORFER R2.1

Dual Voice: Studio Grand, volume 5 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 5

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +4, mid +3, high +1

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: mellow1
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 7
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: light

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Hall 1

Effect: Delay 2, time 1, depth 3


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I've just read your post and played only few minutes to say: yeaaaaah, now we have a really built-in BÖSENDORFER in our DP laugh ha

I love this release R2.1!!! Thanks TADutchman thumb

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Do you have the character and attitude? cool wink


I WANNA BE A POPSTAR BABY GRAND R1.0

Dual Voice: Mellow Grand, volume 8 + Rock Piano, volume 2

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low -6, mid -3, high 0

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: bright1
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 4
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 4
2 - 5 Touch: normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 8

Reverb: Stage

Effect: none


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Today, let's cut through the contemporary mix! shocked sick grin


DRY POP PIANO R1.0

Dual Voice: Pop Piano 2, volume 7 + Modern Piano, volume 3

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low -2, mid +2, high -1

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: bright1
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 4
2 - 3 String resonance: 6
2 - 4 Key off effect: 7
2 - 5 Touch: normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Off

Effect: none


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Ready for some swingin' Jazzband comping? crazy cool


BLUE NOTE FESTIVAL GRAND R1.0

Dual Voice: Jazz Grand, volume 9 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 1

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low -1, mid +2, high 0

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: bright1
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 4
2 - 3 String resonance: 5
2 - 4 Key off effect: 6
2 - 5 Touch: normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 3 Layer octave: -1
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 5

Reverb: Stage

Effect: Delay 2, time 1, depth 1


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Sometimes there's a need for something less sophisticated, less expensive; let's call it an 'excentric personality'! eek grin


TWANGY GRAND R1.0

Dual Voice: Concert Grand 2, volume 7 + Studio Grand 2, volume 3

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +1, mid -2, high +2

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: normal
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 10
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 5
2 - 5 Touch: normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 8

Reverb: Room 2

Effect: none


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Nothing wrong with a subtle and clean filter sweep once in a while, right? cry wink


AMPED SYNTH LEAD R1.0

Dual Voice: Pick Nylon Gt, volume 2 + 60's E.P., volume 8

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low -6, mid +6, high +1

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 5 Touch: light+

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 10

Reverb: Stage

Effect: Delay 2, time 5, depth 5


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Holy Cow.

BRUTAL BASS BÖSENDORFER R2.1

This one is phenomenal. Thanks so much!

Steve


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A very simple preset generator in MS-Excel format for CA63/93 owners is available here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?xbz2f396ylr398g

- F9 to generate a preset
- min/max values are editable

I you need help, please send me a PM.

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This is pretty cool, nice job! wink

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Originally Posted by TADutchman
Originally Posted by CyberGene
Man, you are a machine! thumb

Somehow that reminds me of a random preset generator: grin
http://sourceforge.net/projects/vst-preset-gen/


Originally Posted by Pinipon
A very simple preset generator in MS-Excel format for CA63/93 owners is available here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?xbz2f396ylr398g

- F9 to generate a preset
- min/max values are editable

I you need help, please send me a PM.

I've betatested Pinipon's preset generator on my laptop last week and I'm happy to report that it will most certainly lead to new ideas for the CA93/CA63's dual voice mode! smile

It's so much better suited for our Kawai DP than the one I referred to before. Excellent job! thumb (and next to MS Excel it also works with OpenOffice).


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Originally Posted by Pinipon
I've just read your post and played only few minutes to say: yeaaaaah, now we have a really built-in BÖSENDORFER in our DP laugh ha

I love this release R2.1!!! Thanks TADutchman thumb

Originally Posted by Steve Deutsch
Holy Cow.

BRUTAL BASS BÖSENDORFER R2.1

This one is phenomenal. Thanks so much!

Steve

Thanks for your feedback, guys! grin cool

And what about a supercharged Steinway: would you mind giving this Big One a try too?


STEINWAY GRAND DEVOTION R2.1

Dual Voice: Mellow Grand, volume 9 + Pick Nylon Gt, volume 1

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: Bass boost

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: normal (open-lid) / mellow 1 (half open) / mellow 2 (closed)
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 10
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 8
2 - 5 Touch: light
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Wide

3 Key Settings
3 - 3 Layer octave: -1
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 10

Reverb: Hall 2 / Off

Effect: Delay 2, time 1, depth 5 / Off



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@TADutchman,

Thanks again for posting all of these. I had a chance to try out both the Bosendorfer R2.1 and the Steinway R2.0 at the store today. These are definite improvements over the stock pianos. I think I may slowly be swayed away from Roland's 307 having tried these settings. smile

One more thing, I noticed an odd glitch(?) when programming these sounds into the user presets, I somehow reached a state where I was locked into dual layer mode with the Choir Ahs. Basically, anytime I pushed a non Choir instrument it would only layer with the Choir. When I pushed the Choir again, it would layer with itself. I was unable to access the function key in this state. The issue resolved itself after I pushed 30 or more different buttons.

Have you encountered this before?

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well the new steinway is good. My wife likes it better than the Bosie. I think they're both excellent and probably suited to different pieces. Nice work!


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Originally Posted by Steve Deutsch
well the new steinway is good. My wife likes it better than the Bosie. I think they're both excellent and probably suited to different pieces.

YES, that's exactly what I was looking for: offering more diversity for differences in taste! smile cool


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Originally Posted by FishTako
I had a chance to try out both the Bosendorfer R2.1 and the Steinway R2.0 at the store today. These are definite improvements over the stock pianos. I think I may slowly be swayed away from Roland's 307 having tried these settings. smile

Great to see that you've been digging deeper than most before purchase. thumb
Excellent research, also at the other thread: you're very welcome here! smile


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One more thing, I noticed an odd glitch(?) when programming these sounds into the user presets, I somehow reached a state where I was locked into dual layer mode with the Choir Ahs. Have you encountered this before?

With the previous firmware version I remember having had a similar panel lock-up only once or twice over a period of several Months (maybe caused by accidentally pressing a combination of buttons). I guess they don't have the latest Firmware v1.07 installed at the store yet; just a simple download and USB stick single file transfer to go...


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TADutchman,

this morning I had some time to check out the STEINWAY GRAND DEVOTION R2.1.

Well, I have to say...




Unbelievable! Marvellous! Singing Piano! New Resonances I never heard before.

No, let's get serious again:





















UNBELIEVABLE!! MARVELLOUS!! SINGING PIANO!!

It's really like a new instrument, a new sample set, whatever. I never knew that it's possible with the virtual technician to create with some fantasy and creativity such new sounds. I can now really imagine why you named this piano Steinway grand devotion, even if it of course doesn't exactly sound like a Steinway.

Unfortunately I have no time to get into more details now, but I will now definitely test all the other patches after testing this eye opener.

Thanks again, TADutchman, for all your efforts! You've done a great job.


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Thanks again, TADutchman, for all your efforts! You've done a great job.


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Imagine how impressive a video of TADutchman (or perhaps the Kawai equivalent of Peter Baartmans) would be: showing off his sexily named virtual pianos on the Kawai Europe site rather than another ho hum Sean and Tom show that actually makes the Kawai pianos look and sound bad...

Imagine dealers that are actually trained in the product they sell and that are able to demonstrate and explain it properly in store!

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Well, now it seems I will have to test that Steinway patch shocked


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