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#1526237 10/01/10 12:53 PM
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Hi! I don´t know it there has been any similar topic before, but I would like to know, what do you think about it? Do you think nice, pretty girl with worse piano skills will have more succes than ,ugly,? My friend who studies piano at university told me, that one of her teachers prefers prettier girls! (And he is one of the most accomplished pianist in our country!) She is really pretty and all her classmates I know are too! There isn´t any fat pianist on whole school, she told me it, because she suffers from anorexia...
I know the audience doesn´t matter how pianist looks, but I wanted to study piano at university and now I have to think if I am pretty and thin enough :-(

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And I´m sorry for this silly topic, but it makes me angry, so I would like to know your opinions...

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i would not listen to the appearance opinions of an anorexic. I would think (by far) that the better pianist would do better.

perhaps I am wrong.


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In the ideal world, it would not matter what the pianist looked like. But piano performance is a visual art as well as an aural one, and I've seen enough remarks even on this forum about the appearance of female pianists to know that it does matter. Society is also still more tolerant of ugly but talented men than women, I'm sorry to say.

That said, in no way make it a limiting factor to your decision to continue piano. I don't believe that you have to be ravishing and stick thin to have a successful performance career. It's not like the acting/modeling world (and hopefully won't progress towards that direction). And hey, look at Susan Boyle!

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Apple: I think my friend is diseased, but it´s not just her opinion and I think they´re right, unfortunately :-(
Frozenicicles: I share your opinions about men and female appearance... and thanks for kind words smile Sometimes I doubt if it´s worth to practise hard, when I don´t look like a model :-/

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Veronika, Some of the most talented female artists I have heard do not look like models or Miss America contestants, but I have been thrilled by their talent.

All I can say is "break a leg". Or in other words give it your all and don't worry about appearance.


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Originally Posted by Frozenicicles
performance career. It's not like the acting/modeling world (and hopefully won't progress towards that direction). And hey, look at Susan Boyle!


If you had a choice, do you want to look like Susan Boyle with beautiful voice, or like Heidi Klump (not sure with the spelling) but cannot sing...

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Is there no other teacher in your country worth studying with?
Unfortunately, for as ridiculous a topic as this seems to be there IS something to it. Grimaud, looks good sure, but I can't for the life of me figure out any other attraction to her, because it's certainly not her playing. Lisitsa, looks good (I suppose), but I don't hear much from her that goes beyond technique. There's a few others I could name, but I'm sure I'll have already touched a nerve a two with those names already.



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veronika: You're from Czech Republic right? Last time I checked, 99.9% of Czech girls are very beautiful. (hehe hope my gf doesn't catch me saying this)

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think of Martha Argerich. .. attractive, but no beauty queen (please don't throw any tomatoes). i think the beauty of a person can shine in their music.. not so much in their features, which sag anyway as they age.


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Originally Posted by apple*
think of Martha Argerich. .. attractive, but no beauty queen (please don't throw any tomatoes). i think the beauty of a person can shine in their music.. not so much in their features, which sag anyway as they age.


Martha used to be beautiful!!! She is just old now....when she was young, she was beautiful and pleasant to look...

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Originally Posted by apple*
think of Martha Argerich. .. attractive, but no beauty queen


Are you serious? She was smokin' in her heyday! (sometimes literally haha)

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Ummm yeah, check out this pic of Martha back in the day, totally hot

http://gotthesecheeseburgers.blogspot.com/2008/12/martha-argerichfryderyk-chopin-martha.html

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One of my favorite pianists, Plamena Mangova, came in 2nd in the 2007 QEC. Talent will always out in the end.





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Originally Posted by RonaldSteinway
Originally Posted by Frozenicicles
performance career. It's not like the acting/modeling world (and hopefully won't progress towards that direction). And hey, look at Susan Boyle!


If you had a choice, do you want to look like Susan Boyle with beautiful voice, or like Heidi Klump (not sure with the spelling) but cannot sing...

Why am I being singled out? laugh If I had a choice, honestly I would want to be very attractive. But then again, I am a 20 something year old so you'll want to view my choice with a grain of salt.

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Originally Posted by RonaldSteinway
If you had a choice, do you want to look like Susan Boyle with beautiful voice, or like Heidi Klump (not sure with the spelling) but cannot sing...


Hmmm. Look like Heidi Klum without a good singing voice...

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or like Susan Boyle - who can sing well...

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I'm thinking Heidi Klum. Hey ... you can always get a vocal coach. smile

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as ia said, beauty doesn't last unless it's inner.



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Originally Posted by apple*
as ia said, beauty doesn't last unless it's inner.


Why not have both?

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Ummm yeah, check out this pic of Martha back in the day, totally hot

http://gotthesecheeseburgers.blogspot.com/2008/12/martha-argerichfryderyk-chopin-martha.html

Very nice. And of course I have that CD. laugh

Then there's this one:

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Originally Posted by apple*
as ia said, beauty doesn't last unless it's inner.


Why not have both?


Exactly!
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