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Hello guys, i have taken private lessons with my teacher, i was planning to take the abrsm grade 8 exam,, is it possible for me to just go to a yamaha music centre and register myself for the exam?

Why would you go to a yamaha centre?

You are 14. Do not register for ANYTHING piano related without your teacher.

I registered myself for grade 8 (only grade I did) and got a merit. So yeh, go ahead.

I'm confused too. ABRSM and Yamaha are two different music exam institutions.

Yeh, just do it through ABRSM.

chopin_r_us, you are obviously not speaking as someone with teaching experience?

vladimiroir - did you post your question in *this* forum because you are interested in knowing what *teachers* think about your options?

Whatever any other 14-year-olds on the board think, when you have a teacher, you do not go behind the teacher's back and enter yourself in exams and competitions. If you think your teacher is not doing a good job, of course you should consider discontinuing your lessons - but until you have already paid your final bill, had your last lesson, and said good-bye, you wait for the teacher to enter you in things. This is not a minor matter - it would be a serious @$$h013 move on your part to go through with this.

sorry for the confusion, what i meant was ive already stopped having classes currently because shes shifted overseas,,, so yeah...

If you are on your own without a teacher, if she's not coming back, and you really think you can handle this, then of course go ahead. But it isn't easy - it's no fun to fail an exam - sign up only when you know you are ready to blow them away NOW, TODAY; don't sign up if you think you will be ready in a few months.

To register for ABRSM grade 8 (well grades 6-8), I believe you need to have a minimum of grade 5 in either theory or Jazz performance. It's all up on the ABRSM website....

Have you learned the repertoire for Grade 8 ABRSM? The technical requirements? I think you probably need to do some research before registering for an exam. From your posts on the pianists corner it seems you have been working on pieces that aren't on the ABRSM syllabus.

How does this work in the formal scheme of things? When I did my RCM exams, there is a place for the teacher's name. And how I do also reflects on the teacher, who by way of making a living also has a reputation to uphold.

What is your purpose for doing the exam, Vladomiroir? And why do you want to do it without a teacher's involvement?

Btw, my child made a number of music-related decisions around that age. However, he consulted teachers and people in the profession. It's the same whether you are a parent in your thirties, a young teen, or an adult student. Good decisions can't be made without getting good advice from somewhere.

(Vladimiroir says he used to have a teacher but she left the country).

RCM in Canada will let you register for exams without a teacher; I don't know ABRSM's policies.

Speaking as someone whose teacher said "I'm not going to enter you, you can enter yourself."

Clearly then you had permission to do so. Completely different from going behind the teacher's back, and completely different from not having a teacher.

Permission didn't come into it, I didn't know I could enter myself.

OK.

Vladimiroir: it is absolutely possible to enter yourself for an examination. Most people who do this do not do very well, because they have no idea of the difference between being almost adequately prepared and being brilliantly prepared.

That is not to say that *having* a teacher will guarantee success - I know examiners talk about some parts of the world where they listen to woeful candidate after woeful candidate and get to the end of a depressing day where they have had to fail a high percentage of candidates.

Why do you want to sit the exam? Sharing some of this background might help the teachers in this forum give you some good advice as to how to successfully proceed.

And I'm still bewildered as to the role of a yamaha music centre in this proposition.


chopin_r_us: piano teachers tend to say "you can enter yourself" in a limited number of situations. One is when the piano teacher is entering no other students, and the student entering themselves will make administration of the entry fee and reports much easier all round. Another reason is so that a student can sit the exam at a different time (some exam boards, not the ABRSM, will examine according to the postcode of the person entering the student).

But probably most frequently, in places where examinations dominate the thinking of how piano students' learning should be structured (for example, the UK and here in Australia), teachers say "you can enter yourself" as a euphemism for "I don't want to be associated with the train wreck that your performance for this grade will be".

It was the train wreck reason. It's like you go into a store, buy a candy bar and the vendor tells you when you can eat it - but, as said earlier, I got a merit.

I hope you switched teachers after that.