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#1517966 09/18/10 04:31 PM
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After working at Aria variata BWV989.......today I started The French Suites (purchased a Könemann edition this afternoon for € 2 in a dump bookstore....)

.........and again I was very impressed of Bach-music..... 3hearts

Allemande Suite 1 D-minor and Allemande Suite 5 G-major....so beautiful.....

Highly recommended....

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Yup. smile

Glad you found them.


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yup! i love the 4th (Eb), the allemande could be seen or played as romantic music.

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Bach's French Suites are a collection of some of the finest pieces of music ever written.

All of Bach's music is incredible, timeless, and always interesting. I can never get bored of Bach. Its just not possible.


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The 2nd suite is one of my favourite pieces. Angela Hewitt's recording is beautiful.

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and after you played through them, try the English suites, and then the Partita's, and then...


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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T

All of Bach's music is incredible, timeless, and always interesting. I can never get bored of Bach. Its just not possible.


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Originally Posted by dolce sfogato
and after you played through them, try the English suites, and then the Partita's, and then...


...or in opposite order. The partitas are really less difficult than the English suites, but all of them are phenomenal works no matter which you choose.



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I have a book of English suites Nos. 1-3. I don't know their categorization numbers off the top of my head, though...

I really want to learn them! The Sarabande in G Minor from Suite 3 is absolutely GORGEOUS. (Sorry, I know this topic is about French suites, not English suites, but still!)

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Another great slow Bach piece in g minor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej-HCC4-QUA

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Indeed, that is great! Is it meant to be played with only one hand?

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by the way, if we're diverging anyways, i just uploaded a transcription of my favourite bach performance:

Ivo Pogorelich playing English Suite II - Prelude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL6Yi2zZSSw

the tempo is very fast and some might reject it, but i think it suits the piece, and the performance is still extremely musical. i cut a repetition (2:43) that i don't like and transcribed the performance (especially dynamics). what do you think?

ps: listening to the violin sonata transcription now, so far liking it ^^

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Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by dolce sfogato
and after you played through them, try the English suites, and then the Partita's, and then...


...or in opposite order. The partitas are really less difficult than the English suites, but all of them are phenomenal works no matter which you choose.
I think the Partitas really are the most difficult of all the suites, indeed exeedingly more diff. than the Eng. ones.


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Originally Posted by dolce sfogato
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and after you played through them, try the English suites, and then the Partita's, and then...


...or in opposite order. The partitas are really less difficult than the English suites, but all of them are phenomenal works no matter which you choose.
I think the Partitas really are the most difficult of all the suites, indeed exeedingly more diff. than the Eng. ones.


Do you really? That's interesting. I don't agree, but then, perhaps that says a bit about each of our abilities (at least to a degree I suppose).



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no it says a lot about knowledge of these wonderful pieces, the 6th partita counts as one of the most difficult pieces out of his pen, it dwarfs the rest.


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makes sense because the partitas are the last suites he composed, the english ones being the first.

fun fact: bach labeled the partitas his Op. 1, being published as Clavier-Ãœbung I (Keyboard Exercise I).

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indeed, once did an op.1 program: Bach 1st partita, Mozart KV 1, Chopin Rondo op.1, Berg sonata, Brahms first sonata, 'they' liked it.


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Originally Posted by dolce sfogato
no it says a lot about knowledge of these wonderful pieces, the 6th partita counts as one of the most difficult pieces out of his pen, it dwarfs the rest.


Really? The 6th partita? For me, the 6th English suite (dminor) is the most difficult...especially the Gigue (damn it's difficult!)



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Originally Posted by stores
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no it says a lot about knowledge of these wonderful pieces, the 6th partita counts as one of the most difficult pieces out of his pen, it dwarfs the rest.


Really? The 6th partita? For me, the 6th English suite (dminor) is the most difficult...especially the Gigue (damn it's difficult!)


The 6th partita is huge and complicated, but technically not too bad. I find the 4th partita much more taxing.

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haha, probably everyone has 'his' most difficult bach suite. 'my' most difficult piece would probably be english suite 2 prelude at the 'proper' tempo (quarter = 125) that i wrote about earlier:

Originally Posted by Sorcerer88

Ivo Pogorelich playing English Suite II - Prelude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL6Yi2zZSSw

the tempo is very fast and some might reject it, but i think it suits the piece, and the performance is still extremely musical. i cut a repetition (2:43) that i don't like and transcribed the performance (especially dynamics). what do you think?

ps: listening to the violin sonata transcription now, so far liking it ^^


then again, i haven't really taken a good look at more than 2 suites, so only then i could decide for the most difficult.

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