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#1211404 - 06/03/09 10:55 PM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: Theowne]  
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why does everyone have to care about his face? look at his fingers that's where it gets interesting. he did seem a little nervous and edgy tonight, and made a few mistakes, but still it sounds great to me. it's a much intersting performace than vacatello's recital, which just didn't draw much of my attention.

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#1211419 - 06/03/09 11:18 PM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: signa]  
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It seems that both Bozhanov and Wu tanked fairly hard on their concerti. Vacatello has had the widest range of sound out of those heard tonight, IMO. She's not the most interesting artist of the finalists, but she plays very beautifully nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by Brendan
It seems that both Bozhanov and Wu tanked fairly hard on their concerti. Vacatello has had the widest range of sound out of those heard tonight, IMO. She's not the most interesting artist of the finalists, but she plays very beautifully nonetheless.

Saying Di Wu tanked, that I can probably agree... quite a few obvious mistakes/slips already without many brilliant moments to make you forget those mistakes.

Bozhanov, I thought, did a brilliant job. There was a few mistakes for sure, but overall I quite liked his interpretation and performance, very fresh and very interesting.

Re: Bozhanov's facial expression... this thought occured to me:
It's like watching a white Lang Lang. laugh

(Though Lang Lang would most likely choose something a lot more bombastic than Chopin #1.)

#1211433 - 06/03/09 11:44 PM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: Brendan]  
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wu di's performance is very very exceptonal!!

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#1211441 - 06/04/09 12:04 AM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: signa]  
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Originally Posted by signa
why does everyone have to care about his face?


Because when someone WANTS you to care about their face, then you can comment on their face.

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#1211447 - 06/04/09 12:21 AM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: Theowne]  
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i agree with Axtremus about Bozhanov's Chopin. even when he's a little tense tonight, the music still came out right for me, overall structure, pacing and sound. there're quite a few lovely passages i would want linger a little longer however, but he didn't take cheap shots to do that just for the effect (as he and Conlon discussed in their rehearsal). but his nerve and little tense tonight did affect his playing, not as perfect as in his recitals.

Wu's performance wasn't that great, mostly academic and less interesting, beside her technical problems.

maybe i just didn't listen to her right, but to me, Vacatello sounded a little aggressive and less polished (regarding the tone), mostly her Bach and Ravel. or maybe we should blame on webcast...

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6/4/1989, are there any american pepole knowing something about

china in the day?

#1211553 - 06/04/09 08:23 AM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: justice]  
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Originally Posted by justice
6/4/1989, are there any american pepole knowing something about

china in the day?


Not enough.

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#1211575 - 06/04/09 09:14 AM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: justice]  
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Originally Posted by justice
6/4/1989, are there any american pepole knowing something about

china in the day?


Yes. I could make a joke about using the word 'tanked', but that would be in bad taste.

#1211618 - 06/04/09 10:53 AM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: Brendan]  
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Y'know, sports fans, sometimes they do NOT award the top prize (and sometimes - I know - it's a tie)...I wonder what the final analysis will be...four more days!

Want to hazard a ranking at this point?

Also, PBS usually runs a documentary on this exercise along about the following October (2009); has there been any mention of this?



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#1211658 - 06/04/09 12:19 PM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: Auntie Lynn]  
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got my teacher's email after Bozhanov's Chopin, and he said that Bozhanov's collaboration with the orchestra was perfect last night.

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Originally Posted by Auntie Lynn
Y'know, sports fans, sometimes they do NOT award the top prize (and sometimes - I know - it's a tie)...I wonder what the final analysis will be...four more days!

Want to hazard a ranking at this point?

Also, PBS usually runs a documentary on this exercise along about the following October (2009); has there been any mention of this?




It's in the Cliburn's "rulebook" that a first prize always be awarded. Richard Rodzinski has gone on record saying that not awarding a first prize is a bad idea and makes everyone (especially the promoters) feel cheated because they have X amount of dates already under contract for the winner.

As far as my own ranking goes, it's still too early to tell. Personally, I'm still shedding tears for Beus.

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Anybody know who's playing tonight?

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There's a link to the finals schedule on the front page:

http://www.cliburn.org/


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#1211745 - 06/04/09 03:36 PM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: Kreisler]  
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Thanks!

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Tonight - Thursday June 4

7:30 pm- 8:20 pm – Recital - Yeol Eum Son
8:45 pm- 9:25 pm – FWSO with Nobuyuki Tsujii (Chopin #1, Op. 11)
9:45 pm- 10:25 pm – FWSO with Haochen Zhang (Mozart #20, K 466)

#1211855 - 06/04/09 07:10 PM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: Auntie Lynn]  
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Originally Posted by Auntie Lynn
Tonight - Thursday June 4

7:30 pm- 8:20 pm – Recital - Yeol Eum Son

I'm definitely rooting for her to take the gold. Interesting choice of a closing recital program though...

Anyone else find it interesting that she was a Finalist in the 2005 Chopin Competition, but did not play a single Chopin piece this time around?

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Absolutely sublime Beethoven op. 111.


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Agreed. I am in awe of that performance.


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Yes, very good rendition of Op. 111. thumb

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Tsujii's Chopin is going very well right now.


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#1211968 - 06/04/09 10:33 PM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: virtuoso_735]  
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he has a very straight forward approach to this piece. the 1st movement sounded very good this way, but i kind of feel the 2nd movement sounds flat, and 3rd a little mechanical. but he has such incredible ability.

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Straightforward it may be, but I prefer it far more to the maniacal one heard yesterday .


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no question, most people would like this one better, more of the standard way of playing it. but i know what i like.

#1211973 - 06/04/09 10:44 PM Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread [Re: signa]  
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Yes, most people would, as being different isn't always being better.


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it's subjective.

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Originally Posted by Theowne
Straightforward it may be, but I prefer it far more to the maniacal one heard yesterday .
Tsujii played competently, but I prefer the maniacal one heard yesterday.

Zhang's Mozart is sounding quite a bit more grand and quite a bit more Romantic that what I'd normally expect for a Mozart piece... but what the heck, it's still quite enjoyable.

[EDIT: added after end of performance] I like it. Very nicely done. thumb thumb

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Originally Posted by Axtremus
Originally Posted by Theowne
Straightforward it may be, but I prefer it far more to the maniacal one heard yesterday .
Tsujii played competently, but I prefer the maniacal one heard yesterday.

Zhang's Mozart is sounding quite a bit more grand and quite a bit more Romantic that what I'd normally expect for a Mozart piece... but what the heck, it's still quite enjoyable.


Tsujii continues to amaze me. thumb And the Mozart was the first performance I've heard from Zhang that I found interesting.


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Of the two concerti tonight, I preferred Tsujii's performance (and also preferred it to yesterday's rendition) but I have to admit that Zhang did play quite beautifully. He was much more interesting tonight than he has been in previous rounds. I have a feeling that they'll both medal.

Son was still a snooze-fest, IMO.

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I just came across this interesting internet petition called Transparancy In International Music Competitions . One thing that makes it especially interesting is the list of fairly prominent musicians that have signed (they are mentioned towards the bottom of the homepage). Another is that I spotted the names of some competitors in this current competition in the list of names. The basic idea - that there is no good reason the scoring given by each judge should not be made public - seems fairly sensible to me.

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