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#1506194 - 08/30/10 07:12 PM Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered )  
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I dont know who added the photo but i didnt see this photo of liszt before this is probably the first photo of liszt taken in 1843 he is 32 years old here. Also this photo is former than Chopin's 1846 photo and 1849 photo. Incredible!

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#1506206 - 08/30/10 07:35 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Batuhan]  
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If only he would have showed his hands.

#1506214 - 08/30/10 07:58 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: MikeN]  
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If it is genuine it makes sense. He was much more important than Chopin in society and would have drawn photographers of celebrities, just as greats love to shoot celebrities today.

#1506216 - 08/30/10 08:00 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Michael Glenn Williams]  
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This is cool! Looks like I thought it would, but still cool!

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#1506220 - 08/30/10 08:07 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Orange Soda King]  
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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
This is cool! Looks like I thought it would, but still cool!

No wonder women thought he was hot!


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#1506222 - 08/30/10 08:07 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Orange Soda King]  
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it's very interesting... he's VERY handsome and you can tell his hands are phenomenal.


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#1506228 - 08/30/10 08:15 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: apple*]  
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I could stare at that for hours. Here is the man who would eventually give us Funérailles, Benediction, the piano concertos, the final version of the TEs, the B minor Sonata... masterpiece after masterpiece. Awesome.



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#1506243 - 08/30/10 08:44 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: argerichfan]  
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#1506255 - 08/30/10 09:04 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Skorpius]  
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They can't show his hands in detail, because the well-kept sectret of Liszt's sensational playing is that he had 7 fingers on each hand.

#1506256 - 08/30/10 09:07 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Skorpius]  
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HUNGARIAN RHAPSODY No.2!

YAY!

What a fantastic photo. Yes he really was a handsome man for his time! Wow. Look at those hands. Its like the hands of god. Hehe.


Looks like he had a lot of wealth too. Nice expensive clothing. Chopin's photos dont look as nice, and his clothing didn't seem as elaborate. just maybe timing or choice of clothing at the time.


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#1506257 - 08/30/10 09:08 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo]  
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Kinda looks like an American Indian. Seriously though, hero worship on PW is getting out of hand.


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#1506258 - 08/30/10 09:08 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo]  
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Originally Posted by Mattardo
They can't show his hands in detail, because the well-kept sectret of Liszt's sensational playing is that he had 7 fingers on each hand.


IT MUST BE TRUE!

His left thumb sure looks large! And his right hand seems to have a lot of space! 7 fingers it must be!

ahaha.


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#1506268 - 08/30/10 09:21 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T]  
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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T
HUNGARIAN RHAPSODY No.2!

YAY!

What a fantastic photo. Yes he really was a handsome man for his time! Wow. Look at those hands. Its like the hands of god. Hehe.


Looks like he had a lot of wealth too. Nice expensive clothing. Chopin's photos dont look as nice, and his clothing didn't seem as elaborate. just maybe timing or choice of clothing at the time.


Chopin sure spent a lot of time whining about how expensive all his fine clothing cost.
And gloves.
And carriages....

I guess it was the price he had to pay to mingle in all those salons, playing music for the rich folks.

#1506272 - 08/30/10 09:31 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T]  
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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T
Originally Posted by Mattardo
They can't show his hands in detail, because the well-kept sectret of Liszt's sensational playing is that he had 7 fingers on each hand.


IT MUST BE TRUE!

His left thumb sure looks large! And his right hand seems to have a lot of space! 7 fingers it must be!

ahaha.

Really? I heard each of his fingers has a finger! smile


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#1506276 - 08/30/10 09:34 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T]  
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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T
Originally Posted by Mattardo
They can't show his hands in detail, because the well-kept sectret of Liszt's sensational playing is that he had 7 fingers on each hand.


IT MUST BE TRUE!

His left thumb sure looks large! And his right hand seems to have a lot of space! 7 fingers it must be!

ahaha.


Not sure if this is Liszt.... >:)
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Just ignore the weird, single black key all by itself...
Dang it..

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#1506294 - 08/30/10 09:50 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo]  
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Originally Posted by Mattardo


Just ignore the weird, single black key all by itself...
Dang it..


LOL fail!!

No wait, I fail... That's obviously how they made pianos in those days! How could I forget? laugh

#1506332 - 08/30/10 10:52 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: jazzyprof]  
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Originally Posted by jazzyprof
Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
This is cool! Looks like I thought it would, but still cool!

No wonder women thought he was hot!


Damn right he's hot!! If I were alive then.........



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#1506334 - 08/30/10 10:54 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: eweiss]  
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Originally Posted by eweiss

Really? I heard each of his fingers has a finger! smile


That would explain a lot about the Liszt sonata mad



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#1506346 - 08/30/10 11:23 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Pogorelich.]  
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He looks rather poncey . . .

#1506351 - 08/30/10 11:30 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Pogorelich.]  
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From Wikipedia/Daguerrotype:

The French Academy of Sciences announced the daguerreotype process on January 9, 1839. Later that year William Fox Talbot announced his calotype. Together, these inventions mark 1839 as the year photography was invented.

So, when this photograph was made, photography was only four years old!


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#1506353 - 08/30/10 11:31 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Pogorelich.]  
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Originally Posted by Pogorelich.
Originally Posted by jazzyprof
Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
This is cool! Looks like I thought it would, but still cool!

No wonder women thought he was hot!


Damn right he's hot!! If I were alive then.........


Totally! that face and those hands--wow!

#1506354 - 08/30/10 11:40 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: sophial]  
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WEIHNACHTSBAUM! Oh.


Originally Posted by "Pogorelich."
Damn right he's hot!! If I were alive then.........


Go on...

#1506355 - 08/30/10 11:45 PM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo]  
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Originally Posted by Mattardo

Chopin sure spent a lot of time whining about how expensive all his fine clothing cost.
And gloves.
And carriages....

Basically a princess who also wined about how bad the music of Beethoven, Schumann and Liszt was.

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I guess it was the price he had to pay to mingle in all those salons, playing music for the rich folks.

And never teaching anyone of much importance... at least not in the grand scheme of things... and nothing compared to Liszt. If Mikuli had never existed, history would not be much different.

A sourpuss who got the last laugh...


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#1506365 - 08/31/10 12:03 AM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: mr_roberts_z]  
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Originally Posted by mr_roberts_z
WEIHNACHTSBAUM! Oh.


Originally Posted by "Pogorelich."
Damn right he's hot!! If I were alive then.........


Go on...


I can't, it's rated "R"



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#1506375 - 08/31/10 12:21 AM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Palindrome]  
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Originally Posted by Palindrome
From Wikipedia/Daguerrotype:

The French Academy of Sciences announced the daguerreotype process on January 9, 1839. Later that year William Fox Talbot announced his calotype. Together, these inventions mark 1839 as the year photography was invented.

So, when this photograph was made, photography was only four years old!


Whoa, Palindrome... Cool! Thanks for the context!

I guess that means Liszt was on the cutting edge, pretty much, and up on all things new??? Including his own music!


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#1506385 - 08/31/10 12:36 AM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Cinnamonbear]  
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Another photo of Liszt taken several years later....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Franz_Liszt_photo.jpg


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LOL!

The touring schedule really got to him!


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#1506431 - 08/31/10 03:18 AM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo]  
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Originally Posted by Mattardo
Chopin sure spent a lot of time whining about how expensive all his fine clothing cost.
And gloves.
And carriages....

Really?

I always thought he got most of his clothes from George's closet.


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#1506454 - 08/31/10 05:14 AM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T]  
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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T
HUNGARIAN RHAPSODY No.2!

YAY!

What a fantastic photo. Yes he really was a handsome man for his time! Wow. Look at those hands. Its like the hands of god. Hehe.


Looks like he had a lot of wealth too. Nice expensive clothing. Chopin's photos dont look as nice, and his clothing didn't seem as elaborate. just maybe timing or choice of clothing at the time.


Chopin is the most charismatic guy i ever seen. Chopin's 1849 photo is more mysterious than every photos both are good looking guys but Chopin is different. His clothes and hair always elaborate but he was very ill at the time and he cant think his appearance.

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#1506457 - 08/31/10 05:26 AM Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T]  
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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T

Looks like he had a lot of wealth too. Nice expensive clothing. Chopin's photos dont look as nice, and his clothing didn't seem as elaborate. just maybe timing or choice of clothing at the time.


Liszt was a much flashier dresser than Chopin who while he liked to be in style was very conservative in his taste. I personally think that in that last best known photograph of Chopin he was wearing the overcoat to disguise how thin and frail he'd become. And perhaps for warmth as well as he felt cold all the time by then.

BTW - the Liszt dag, while not well known, isn't totally out of the blue. I've seen it reproduced in at least one biography before now. It is authentic. And like everyone else, I wish they'd done a better job showing his hands.


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