Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered )

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Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) #1506194 08/30/10 08:12 PM 08/30/10 08:12 PM
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Batuhan OP 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,030 Istanbul	I dont know who added the photo but i didnt see this photo of liszt before this is probably the first photo of liszt taken in 1843 he is 32 years old here. Also this photo is former than Chopin's 1846 photo and 1849 photo. Incredible! Last edited by Batuhan; 08/31/10 06:23 AM. Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve.

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Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Batuhan] #1506206 08/30/10 08:35 PM 08/30/10 08:35 PM
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MikeN 500 Post Club Member M Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 895 Ohio	If only he would have showed his hands.

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: MikeN] #1506214 08/30/10 08:58 PM 08/30/10 08:58 PM
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Michael Glenn Williams Full Member M Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 126 Southern California	If it is genuine it makes sense. He was much more important than Chopin in society and would have drawn photographers of celebrities, just as greats love to shoot celebrities today.

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Michael Glenn Williams] #1506216 08/30/10 09:00 PM 08/30/10 09:00 PM
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Orange Soda King 6000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 6,762 Louisville, Kentucky, United S...	This is cool! Looks like I thought it would, but still cool!

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Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Orange Soda King] #1506220 08/30/10 09:07 PM 08/30/10 09:07 PM
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jazzyprof 2000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,775 Ann Arbor, MI	Originally Posted by Orange Soda King This is cool! Looks like I thought it would, but still cool! No wonder women thought he was hot! "Playing the piano is my greatest joy...period."......JP

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Orange Soda King] #1506222 08/30/10 09:07 PM 08/30/10 09:07 PM
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apple* Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,862 Kansas	it's very interesting... he's VERY handsome and you can tell his hands are phenomenal. accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: apple*] #1506228 08/30/10 09:15 PM 08/30/10 09:15 PM
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argerichfan 9000 Post Club Member A Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 9,373 Pacific Northwest, US.	I could stare at that for hours. Here is the man who would eventually give us Funérailles, Benediction, the piano concertos, the final version of the TEs, the B minor Sonata... masterpiece after masterpiece. Awesome. Jason

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: argerichfan] #1506243 08/30/10 09:44 PM 08/30/10 09:44 PM
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Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Skorpius] #1506255 08/30/10 10:04 PM 08/30/10 10:04 PM
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Mattardo 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,306	They can't show his hands in detail, because the well-kept sectret of Liszt's sensational playing is that he had 7 fingers on each hand.

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Skorpius] #1506256 08/30/10 10:07 PM 08/30/10 10:07 PM
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Brandon_W_T 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,940 Omaha, Nebraska	HUNGARIAN RHAPSODY No.2! YAY! What a fantastic photo. Yes he really was a handsome man for his time! Wow. Look at those hands. Its like the hands of god. Hehe. Looks like he had a lot of wealth too. Nice expensive clothing. Chopin's photos dont look as nice, and his clothing didn't seem as elaborate. just maybe timing or choice of clothing at the time. ______ Home - 1905 Story and Clark Art Case --NEW!--- 1964ish Conn 640 vacuum tube theatre organ! (with leslie!) Grandmas- New Hyundai petite baby grand Church (the organ I practice on)- 1998 Bedient (Built about 45 minutes from me!) 2m/pedal 24 rank Cavaille-Coll style pipe organ

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo] #1506257 08/30/10 10:08 PM 08/30/10 10:08 PM
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eweiss 2000 Post Club Member Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,393 Beautiful San Diego, CA	Kinda looks like an American Indian. Seriously though, hero worship on PW is getting out of hand. Play New Age Piano http://www.quiescencemusic.com

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo] #1506258 08/30/10 10:08 PM 08/30/10 10:08 PM
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Brandon_W_T 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,940 Omaha, Nebraska	Originally Posted by Mattardo They can't show his hands in detail, because the well-kept sectret of Liszt's sensational playing is that he had 7 fingers on each hand. IT MUST BE TRUE! His left thumb sure looks large! And his right hand seems to have a lot of space! 7 fingers it must be! ahaha. ______ Home - 1905 Story and Clark Art Case --NEW!--- 1964ish Conn 640 vacuum tube theatre organ! (with leslie!) Grandmas- New Hyundai petite baby grand Church (the organ I practice on)- 1998 Bedient (Built about 45 minutes from me!) 2m/pedal 24 rank Cavaille-Coll style pipe organ

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T] #1506268 08/30/10 10:21 PM 08/30/10 10:21 PM
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Mattardo 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,306	Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T HUNGARIAN RHAPSODY No.2! YAY! What a fantastic photo. Yes he really was a handsome man for his time! Wow. Look at those hands. Its like the hands of god. Hehe. Looks like he had a lot of wealth too. Nice expensive clothing. Chopin's photos dont look as nice, and his clothing didn't seem as elaborate. just maybe timing or choice of clothing at the time. Chopin sure spent a lot of time whining about how expensive all his fine clothing cost. And gloves. And carriages.... I guess it was the price he had to pay to mingle in all those salons, playing music for the rich folks.

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T] #1506272 08/30/10 10:31 PM 08/30/10 10:31 PM
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eweiss 2000 Post Club Member Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,393 Beautiful San Diego, CA	Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T Originally Posted by Mattardo They can't show his hands in detail, because the well-kept sectret of Liszt's sensational playing is that he had 7 fingers on each hand. IT MUST BE TRUE! His left thumb sure looks large! And his right hand seems to have a lot of space! 7 fingers it must be! ahaha. Really? I heard each of his fingers has a finger! Play New Age Piano http://www.quiescencemusic.com

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T] #1506276 08/30/10 10:34 PM 08/30/10 10:34 PM
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Mattardo 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,306	Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T Originally Posted by Mattardo They can't show his hands in detail, because the well-kept sectret of Liszt's sensational playing is that he had 7 fingers on each hand. IT MUST BE TRUE! His left thumb sure looks large! And his right hand seems to have a lot of space! 7 fingers it must be! ahaha. Not sure if this is Liszt.... >:) Just ignore the weird, single black key all by itself... Dang it.. Last edited by Mattardo; 08/30/10 10:35 PM.

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo] #1506294 08/30/10 10:50 PM 08/30/10 10:50 PM
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Orange Soda King 6000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 6,762 Louisville, Kentucky, United S...	Originally Posted by Mattardo Just ignore the weird, single black key all by itself... Dang it.. LOL fail!! No wait, I fail... That's obviously how they made pianos in those days! How could I forget?

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: jazzyprof] #1506332 08/30/10 11:52 PM 08/30/10 11:52 PM
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Pogorelich. 4000 Post Club Member Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,717 not somewhere over the rainbow	Originally Posted by jazzyprof Originally Posted by Orange Soda King This is cool! Looks like I thought it would, but still cool! No wonder women thought he was hot! Damn right he's hot!! If I were alive then......... "The eyes can mislead, the smile can lie, but the shoes always tell the truth."

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: eweiss] #1506334 08/30/10 11:54 PM 08/30/10 11:54 PM
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Pogorelich. 4000 Post Club Member Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,717 not somewhere over the rainbow	Originally Posted by eweiss Really? I heard each of his fingers has a finger! That would explain a lot about the Liszt sonata "The eyes can mislead, the smile can lie, but the shoes always tell the truth."

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Pogorelich.] #1506346 08/31/10 12:23 AM 08/31/10 12:23 AM
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gsmonks 500 Post Club Member G Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 652 Saskatchewan, Canada	He looks rather poncey . . .

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Pogorelich.] #1506351 08/31/10 12:30 AM 08/31/10 12:30 AM
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Palindrome 3000 Post Club Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,918 Chicago, IL USA	From Wikipedia/Daguerrotype: The French Academy of Sciences announced the daguerreotype process on January 9, 1839. Later that year William Fox Talbot announced his calotype. Together, these inventions mark 1839 as the year photography was invented. So, when this photograph was made, photography was only four years old! There is no end of learning. -Robert Schumann Rules for Young Musicians

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Pogorelich.] #1506353 08/31/10 12:31 AM 08/31/10 12:31 AM
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sophial 3000 Post Club Member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,546 US	Originally Posted by Pogorelich. Originally Posted by jazzyprof Originally Posted by Orange Soda King This is cool! Looks like I thought it would, but still cool! No wonder women thought he was hot! Damn right he's hot!! If I were alive then......... Totally! that face and those hands--wow!

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: sophial] #1506354 08/31/10 12:40 AM 08/31/10 12:40 AM
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mr_roberts_z Full Member M Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 204 Canada	WEIHNACHTSBAUM! Oh. Originally Posted by "Pogorelich." Damn right he's hot!! If I were alive then......... Go on...

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo] #1506355 08/31/10 12:45 AM 08/31/10 12:45 AM
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argerichfan 9000 Post Club Member A Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 9,373 Pacific Northwest, US.	Originally Posted by Mattardo Chopin sure spent a lot of time whining about how expensive all his fine clothing cost. And gloves. And carriages.... Basically a princess who also wined about how bad the music of Beethoven, Schumann and Liszt was. Quote I guess it was the price he had to pay to mingle in all those salons, playing music for the rich folks. And never teaching anyone of much importance... at least not in the grand scheme of things... and nothing compared to Liszt. If Mikuli had never existed, history would not be much different. A sourpuss who got the last laugh... Jason

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: mr_roberts_z] #1506365 08/31/10 01:03 AM 08/31/10 01:03 AM
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Pogorelich. 4000 Post Club Member Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,717 not somewhere over the rainbow	Originally Posted by mr_roberts_z WEIHNACHTSBAUM! Oh. Originally Posted by "Pogorelich." Damn right he's hot!! If I were alive then......... Go on... I can't, it's rated "R" "The eyes can mislead, the smile can lie, but the shoes always tell the truth."

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Palindrome] #1506375 08/31/10 01:21 AM 08/31/10 01:21 AM
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Cinnamonbear 4000 Post Club Member Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,411 Rockford, IL	Originally Posted by Palindrome From Wikipedia/Daguerrotype: The French Academy of Sciences announced the daguerreotype process on January 9, 1839. Later that year William Fox Talbot announced his calotype. Together, these inventions mark 1839 as the year photography was invented. So, when this photograph was made, photography was only four years old! Whoa, Palindrome... Cool! Thanks for the context! I guess that means Liszt was on the cutting edge, pretty much, and up on all things new??? Including his own music! I may not be fast, but at least I'm slow.

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Cinnamonbear] #1506385 08/31/10 01:36 AM 08/31/10 01:36 AM
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Carey 8000 Post Club Member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,635 Phoenix, Arizona	Another photo of Liszt taken several years later.... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Franz_Liszt_photo.jpg Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640 Kawai K-500 Upright Kawai CA-65 Digital YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Carey] #1506390 08/31/10 01:49 AM 08/31/10 01:49 AM
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Cinnamonbear 4000 Post Club Member Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,411 Rockford, IL	LOL! The touring schedule really got to him! I may not be fast, but at least I'm slow.

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Mattardo] #1506431 08/31/10 04:18 AM 08/31/10 04:18 AM
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dannylux 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,862 Connecticut	Originally Posted by Mattardo Chopin sure spent a lot of time whining about how expensive all his fine clothing cost. And gloves. And carriages.... Really? I always thought he got most of his clothes from George's closet. Mel "Love has nothing to do with what you are expecting to get — only what you are expecting to give — which is everything. You give because you love and cannot help giving." Katharine Hepburn

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T] #1506454 08/31/10 06:14 AM 08/31/10 06:14 AM
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Batuhan OP 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,030 Istanbul	Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T HUNGARIAN RHAPSODY No.2! YAY! What a fantastic photo. Yes he really was a handsome man for his time! Wow. Look at those hands. Its like the hands of god. Hehe. Looks like he had a lot of wealth too. Nice expensive clothing. Chopin's photos dont look as nice, and his clothing didn't seem as elaborate. just maybe timing or choice of clothing at the time. Chopin is the most charismatic guy i ever seen. Chopin's 1849 photo is more mysterious than every photos both are good looking guys but Chopin is different. His clothes and hair always elaborate but he was very ill at the time and he cant think his appearance. Last edited by Batuhan; 08/31/10 06:21 AM. Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve.

Re: Liszt Photo Taken In 1843 ( Newly Discovered ) [Re: Brandon_W_T] #1506457 08/31/10 06:26 AM 08/31/10 06:26 AM
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-Frycek 5000 Post Club Member Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,921 SC Mountains	Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T Looks like he had a lot of wealth too. Nice expensive clothing. Chopin's photos dont look as nice, and his clothing didn't seem as elaborate. just maybe timing or choice of clothing at the time. Liszt was a much flashier dresser than Chopin who while he liked to be in style was very conservative in his taste. I personally think that in that last best known photograph of Chopin he was wearing the overcoat to disguise how thin and frail he'd become. And perhaps for warmth as well as he felt cold all the time by then. BTW - the Liszt dag, while not well known, isn't totally out of the blue. I've seen it reproduced in at least one biography before now. It is authentic. And like everyone else, I wish they'd done a better job showing his hands. Slow down and do it right.